Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Broadway Jones

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Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC and WP:GNG. Played only three games as a relief pitcher in July 1923 so he is unlikely to have sources with sufficient coverage to pass WP:NSPORT. A BEFORE search yielded lots of sources about the film and a popular play of the same name that ran on Broadway in 1912-1913. I couldn't find a thing on the baseball player other than sports databases which don't count towards WP:SIGCOV. 4meter4 (talk) 16:14, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. 4meter4 (talk) 16:14, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Baseball and Delaware. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:09, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep. Playing in the MLB absolutely indicates that someone is covered significantly. We've found SIGCOV for every 20th and 21st century MLB player taken to AFD and Jones is no different, see e.g. [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-news-journal/172629938/ this], [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-news-journal/172630006/ this] and [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-news-journal/172630022/ this]. I could turn this into a GA if I wanted to (and may eventually, given that he's one of the few MLB players from my home state, Delaware). BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:16, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::Meh. I've seen a few articles on MLB players who only appeared in a game or two get deleted so I don't accept that claim as true. Kudos on locating sources, but the claims of notability all seem very inflated for a man who played in only three MLB games in less than a two week period in July 1923. We have an obituary largely sourced to an interview with the subject's wife which to my mind is not independent as an interview, and then we have one piece covering his debut game and another his decision to leave baseball due to the illness of his father soon after. Both of these pieces were published in Wilmington's The News Journal and are essentially local boy makes good type of coverage which I would't consider significant. Fundamentally, what makes a short lived relief pitcher whose entire career includes collectively only eight innings of play over a week and a half time period encyclopedic enough to have his own biographical article? This very nominal contribution to professional sports would be better covered in the 1923 Philadelphia Phillies season; although it is so nominal it probably would be WP:UNDUE there making a biographical entry seem even more inappropriate.4meter4 (talk) 17:37, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::: There's a good deal of other coverage in the state papers, e.g. [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-journal/172634316/ 1] [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-journal/172634392/ 2] [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-journal/172634422/ 3] [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-news-journal/172634440/ 4] [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-journal/172634463/ 5], and its tough to look for coverage since his names (Broadway and Jesse / Jones) are very common. The only MLB players deleted were from the 1800s. Playing in the MLB, even if only three games, is still a significant accomplishment and its silly to say SIGCOV on MLB players is not SIGCOV "because they didn't play that much". BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:23, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

• Keep the sources above easily satisfy GNG. Wizardman 18:29, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep - The nomination makes no sense. Playing 3 games in the Major Leagues in the 1900 means that a subject is extremely likely to have sufficient sources, as BeanieFan says. Even almost every 19th century National League player whose first name is known has had sufficient sources (I can think of one exception in my decade plus of watching baseball AfDs closely, and based on the research I did that player was likely erroneously listed as a Major Leaguer in one database). And, of course, BeanieFan found sufficient sources to meet GNG. And I am curious which 20th century Major Leaguer who played 3 (or more) games has had an article deleted. Because I am pretty sure I'd be able to find adequate sources to restore the article. Rlendog (talk) 13:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep meets GNG. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:59, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

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