Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calamba Medical Center
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 16:27, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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This article has only cited a single primary source since it was created in 2016 and I was unable to find anything about it in a WP:BEFORE. Except for the same kind of routine trivial coverage on Covid-19 that all hospitals are getting right now. So, there this doesn't pass the notability standards for either WP:GNG or WP:ORG. Per prior consensus as an alternative to deletion it could be redirected to List_of_hospitals_in_the_Philippines. Although, I'll leave it up to voters to decide a redirect is appropriate or not. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete articles are to have references, and that is missing. Catfurball (talk) 23:34, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: I found a few reliable sources which talk about the hospital: [https://business.inquirer.net/160677/level-2-calamba-hospital-hopes-to-reach-international-standards], [https://www.philstar.com/lifestyle/arts-and-culture/2019/07/29/1938656/center-history] and [https://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/300458]. It also had a [https://www.chanrobles.com/scdecisions/jurisprudence2008/nov2008/gr_176484_2008.php case against a couple of doctors]. With these, the article is good enough to pass WP:HOS. ASTIG😎 (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 16:05, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
::Just an FYI, all the sources provided by ASTIG are primary since two are interviews and the other is overwhelmingly court documents. While the other is just a basic trivial listing of their services. None of which work for notability. Especially the thing about a few of their doctors being accused of stuff. Which is from a private legal blog that is heavily based on court documents. Not a news outlet. Also, WP:HOS isn't a guideline about notability or anything else. So there's nothing this needs to "pass" about it. Wikiprojects don't dictate the notability guidelines and no where does WP:HOS act like it is. This does need to pass WP:GNG and WP:NORG though. Both of which require multiple in-depth reliable secondary sources and this article still lacks them. ASTIG being miss-leading about things doesn't change that. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:38, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Relisted after a "delete" closure per discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 October 21.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:27, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Superastig's sources seem fine and I found no difficulty in finding another one which confirms that this is a respectable establishment; one of the best hospitals in its province. It's a case of WP:NEXIST and so our policy WP:ATD applies: "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." Andrew🐉(talk) 10:37, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Astig and my own WP:BEFORE search which also included [https://www.pressreader.com/philippines/the-philippine-star/20190729/282492890300889] as a possible source. SportingFlyer T·C 11:21, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete trivial. The relevant guideline is WP:NORG, and this doesn't meet it. " confirms that this is a respectable establishment; one of the best hospitals in its province." neither is a reason or keeping. And editing cannot improve the page unless the are sources available, that meet WP:NCORP--nobody has proposed any. DGG ( talk ) 03:24, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
:*What are the problem with the current sources? Certainly seems like they tick the five NCORP boxes to me. SportingFlyer T·C 11:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 08:18, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY and {{U|Superastig}}. I can not verify the fact of how many beds it has, but it appears to have had signficiant coverage showing it is "respected." {{U|SportingFlyer}} has found an article from the Philippine Star, which is reliable. Bearian (talk) 18:40, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - There is nothing significant about it. It kinda fails WP:MILL because it's just like any other hospital in the Phillipines, or in this case, the world. Koridas 📣 07:59, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY, sourcing shown by ASTIG is sufficient to pass both WP:GNG and WP:MILL, which is of dubious relevance to this discussion anyway. Devonian Wombat (talk) 05:12, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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