Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caradhras

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No indication this fictional location passes WP:NFICTION/WP:GNG. Pure WP:PLOT. BEFORE fails to show anything that's not a mention in passing/fictional bio summary. Deprodded by User:Necrothesp with "significant location in Tolkien's work". That's not enough, I am afraid. Any better arguments, anyone? (And yes, obvious redirect location are the Misty Mountains, but that's just delaying the issue until the AfD for that article...). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

• Keep or Merge to Misty Mountains. I repeat, major location in the works of one of the most significant authors in the English language. Clearly notable. The comment about the Misty Mountains suggest the nominator would like to get rid of anything to do with Tolkien's work, given they're even more significant. Yet we have many thousands of articles based purely on fictional elements. Where will this end, I wonder? -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fantasy-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

• Merge to Misty Mountains. Cannot find any significant coverage in reliable sources to show that this needs its own article. --Darth Mike^(talk) 19:35, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
• Merge to Misty Mountains.--Jack Upland (talk) 04:56, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails NFICTION/GNG. Pure PLOT. Merging to Misty Mountains is delaying the inevitable. Kacper IV (talk) 09:35, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
• Merge to Misty Mountains. Not independently notable, but the Misty Mountains are. I disagree with the conclusion that the Misty Mountains should be culled also. Hog Farm (talk) 17:49, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
• The fate of the misty mountains article will wait for another day. With the number of times I heard my father sing "far over the he misty mountains deep" it might be hard for me to accept that they might not be notable. If The Lord of the Rings (TV series) was for sure going to start in Hollin as the elven smith gazed at the mountains as he forged a ring of power I would be sure the mountains can survive. In reality though it will be af least 2 years before an episode of that show is released so I am not thinking we will see much change related to the notability of the mountains.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:48, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
• Delete no reason to have an article on a mountain that appears briefly in one work of fiction. Hopefully this will not end before we delete all articles on characters known only from recitations of rulers or uniformed statements about their cats. I am not exaggerating about the cats line. I am close to saying if we have 6 articles kn Simirilian characters we have too many.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:43, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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