Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carl Stephenson (producer)

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Article claims notability for the subject as being a well-known platinum album producer, yet i cannot find a single article to back this up. Also, the fact that the only links refer to myspace, and that none artists mentioned in the article has an own wikipedia page, i presume this is a WP:HOAX Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 19:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

• Delete par being the nominator Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 19:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

• It's not a hoax. He claims to have coproduced and cowritten Loser (Beck song), and [http://www.google.de/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&num=50&q=%22Karl%20Stephenson%22%20beck%20loser a quick search] [http://lescharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Beck&titel=Loser&cat=s supports it]. He's even mentioned at our own Mellow Gold article. He has an entry in numerous music databases ([http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:0pftxqugld0e Allmusic], [http://music.msn.com/music/artist-credits/karl-stephenson/ music.msn.com]). There's a number of gnews [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Karl+Stephenson%22+music&btnG=Search&num=50&um=1&ie=UTF-8] [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Carl+Stephenson%22+music&btnG=Search&num=50&um=1&ie=UTF-8] which just led me to coverage in the Los Angeles Times, e.g. [http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/22953224.html?dids=22953224:22953224&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Nov+16%2C+1997&author=Robert+Hilburn&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=POP+MUSIC%3B+%27Dream%27+Deferred+No+More%3B+Carl+Stephenson%2C+the+creative+force+of+Forest+for+the+Trees%2C+was+at+the+edge+of+fame+when+mental+illness+put+his+life+on+hold.&pqatl=google]. Most of them are pay per view, so I can only see abstracts, put I think there's enough coverage about *him* to be significant.
  Keep, but it needs a serious rewrite. --Amalthea^Talk 16:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. non-notable and poor refs. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 01:38, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
• According to WP:MUSIC he *is* notable, being a member of the notable musical group Forest for the Trees. There is enough material there to warrant an article of his own, especially with his contributions to many different groups (again, in accordance with WP:MUSIC). References have been improved a little, but there's much more out there (if not for free, look at the google news search)
  Furthermore, "poor refs" are not a reason for deletion - non-existant references are.
  Amalthea^Talk 09:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per Amalthea. Hiding T 21:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

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