Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carleton Student Engineering Society (2nd nomination)

:{{la|Carleton Student Engineering Society}} ([{{fullurl:Carleton Student Engineering Society|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carleton Student Engineering Society (2nd nomination)}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

A recreation of an article deleted twice after a previous AfD. Db-repost declined because "does not qualify for deletion as recreaion of deleted article because this article bears little resemblance to the article previously deleted as a result of AfD". In one respect it does resemble the previous article; the underlying topic is not notable. Abductive (talk) 16:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:Keep Seems like a pretty decent article. Subject is notable enough. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

::What is your evidence of notability of this student club? Abductive (talk) 20:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:Weak delete Needs secondary sources to establish notability which are not present in the article. Only primary sources are present. Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

• Weak keep Nonprimary references are needed, yes. Still, this article clearly has potential and its writers have clearly put more than a little effort into it; recommend probation for now. --AuthorityTam (talk) 20:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

::I would be okay with that as well. However I would add caution that the article was basically dormant in development since august of last year until recently this month.Ottawa4ever (talk) 20:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 00:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete student clubs at individual universities are almost never notable. No sources for notability, and no reason why there should be any. I would be extremely surprised if this article on a student club in a single subject in a single university could be shown to be notable. I would consider it a valid G7 in its current version, but we would do better to definitively remove it here. DGG (talk) 18:19, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• If one finds an article on a student club on Wikipedia, the likelihood is that it is notable; it's like natural selection. By hitting random article I find pages that don't show up in Google searches sometimes. Abductive (talk) 22:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete - started, not surprisingly, by a Carleton engineering student; unsourced, and, what is more, unsourceable through reliable independent material. Where, after all, might one find references for the "Symbols" section, except in the author's own personal experience, which isn't valid for this encyclopedia? - Biruitorul ^Talk 03:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete - self-promotional fancruft. No notability asserted by outside sources. Dahn (talk) 16:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

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