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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carola Darwin

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 23:59, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

=[[Carola Darwin]]=

:{{la|Carola Darwin}} ([{{fullurl:Carola Darwin|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carola Darwin}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

Notability of the subject not established. See comments by previous editor on the article's Talk Page. Jack1956 (talk) 21:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete I can't see how she is yet notable; her career is not yet established. DGG (talk) 00:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. For the record, I'll paste my Talk Page comments below:

::In my opinion it is too soon for an article on Carola Darwin. She does not appear to pass the criteria for the notability of creative professionals or musicians, composers, lyricists. Note that being the great-great-granddaughter of Charles Darwin, and the sister of Emma Darwin does not establish notability either. Notability is not inherited. See Google search results for "Carola Darwin" on the [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&q=%22carola+darwin%22&btnG=Search web] and in [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&newwindow=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&q=%22carola+darwin%22 news archives (all dates)].

::The opera mentioned (Children of Fire) is still being developed and is not due to premiere until 2009 at the earliest. The notability of the project and Carola Darwin's involvement in it is not established at the point. See these Google search results for [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&q=%22Children+of+fire%22++carola+darwin&btnG=Search web] and [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&newwindow=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&q=%22Children+of+fire%22++carola+darwin news archives (all dates)]

::The opera performances listed do not state the company. Having checked several of them, they appear to be student productions, community organizations, and semi-professional companies. No major roles with notable professional opera companies, no solo recitals in major concert halls, and no appearances as a soloist with a major orchestra which have been reviewed in reliable independent sources.

::The Vienna Show mentioned is part of the subject's as yet uncompleted PhD and has received no notable coverage on the [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Vienna%20Show%22%20%20%22carola%20darwin%22&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=nw web] or in the [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&q=%22Vienna+Show%22++%22carola+darwin%22 news (all dates)] This mention [http://directors.youngvic.org/index.php?pid=137&did=126] is for a project at the Young Vic for:

:::"directors at an early stage of their career. The only criteria for joining is that they consider themselves professional directors, are not in full time education and are resident in the UK. It is important that when using this list detailed references are taken up as presence on this list is not in itself a recommendation." [http://directors.youngvic.org/index.php?pid=25]

:I've re-checked the links above and there is no improvement in notability, of either Darwin or her proposed project. Nor has the article been improved or references supporting notability added. My arguments remain the same.Voceditenore (talk) 11:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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