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Fails WP:ANYBIO. Fails WP:NPOL. Has tge coverage one would expect for a mayor of a small city. No claim of notability made; and, as one might expect, none shown. John from Idegon (talk) 02:24, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 02:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 02:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 02:47, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

• Keep. Jefferson City is the capital of Missouri. Unless there has been a massive 180, my understanding was that we keep those articles.--Mpen320 (talk) 21:33, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
• Question {{u|Mpen320}}: What about being the capital city makes a difference? The criteria is size, the number is 100k. You know...about 57k greater than Jefferson City. John from Idegon (talk) 02:48, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• From Wikipedia:POLITICIAN: Mayors: Mayors of cities of at least regional prominence have usually survived AFD, although the article should say more than just "Jane Doe is the mayor of Cityville". I would consider a state capital to be regionally prominent by virtue of its status as the seat of state government and its size compared to cities in Missouri-at-large.--Mpen320 (talk) 15:17, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• {{u|Mpen320}}, I tend to defer to {{u|Bearcat}}'s perspective around Mayors and municipal officials where it talks about global prominence. I have tagged him here for his judgement call on this topic. Bkissin (talk) 17:22, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• {{u|Bearcat}} is good people.--Mpen320 (talk) 20:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• Just to be clear, we definitely do not grant an automatic notability freebie to a mayor just because the city she's mayor of happens to be capital of its state. A decade ago, when our notability standard for mayors was "50K = automatic inherent notability regardless of how badly written and sourced the article is", there was some support for the idea that state and national capitals could be treated the same way even if their population was below 50K — but that died when the 50K test died, and even that's been dead for more than half of the intervening decade. In 2020, even mayors of state capitals still have to clear the notability bar exactly the same way as any other mayor: namely by writing and sourcing some genuine substance about her political importance. No mayor of any city, state capital or not, gets an automatic inclusion freebie just because it's technically possible to verify that she exists, if the article isn't substantive and doesn't cite enough sourcing to credibly pass NPOL #2. Bearcat (talk) 17:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• Delete the sourcing is not enough to show notability. There is no special criteria for capital cities of states, especially considering some of these cities are not important at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• Delete — Per rationale given by {{u|Johnpacklambert}}. Celestina007 (talk) 19:20, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• Keep Meets GNG with sources in article, plus sources like [https://krcgtv.com/news/local/public-asked-to-vote-on-their-favorite-missouri-state-penitentiary-renovation-proposal] [https://krcgtv.com/news/local/mayor-tergin-speaks-out-about-stay-at-home-order] [https://www.newstribune.com/news/news/story/2019/oct/03/mayor-carrie-tergin-aspires-inclusion-openness-like-missouri-first-lady-teresa-parson/798012/]. Mayor of a capital city. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 15:44, 11 June 2020 (UTC)*
• Keep The name is recognizable in Missouri. Jefferson City is small, but it is a state capitol, so punches above it's weight. Grey Wanderer (talk) 05:18, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
• Keep. Solid arguments have been made that the specific article subject meets GNG requirement, while the delete comments are little more than generic positions that mayors of this city are not likely to be notable, which are of no value and should carry no weight in assessing the specific case. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 00:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

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