Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Baron (baseball) (2nd nomination)

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First AfD was kept because it was determined that minor league championships made him notable. In light of the stream of successful AfD's on individuals whose only claim to fame was managing a minor league team to a championship, let's revisit this one. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

• Keep. Notable. Askadaleia (talk) 01:46, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
• How? – Muboshgu (talk) 02:47, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
• WP:ITSNOTABLE isn't really a substantial vote. Can you elaborate? I'm looking at the 1st AFD, and all the keep votes seem to be going against the grain on the consensus we've had on most AFDs lately where minor league manager championships isn't really enough to pass WP:GNG. I'm going to pass on voting for this one right now, but empty votes or !votes like the one above should be avoided. Agent Vodello^{OK, Let's Party, Darling!} 03:16, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:51, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

• Delete. No evidence of substantial coverage from WP:RS sources is offered, and none can be found. The thing that seemed to impress yes voters in the 1st AfD was that he managed the Jacksonville Jax to a championship. World Series? No. AAA minor league? No. AA? No. A? No. B? No. The championship under discussion was the the Gulf Coast, C level rookie league. Fails WP:BASE/N, fails WP:GNG. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 05:55, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
• Keep – WP:ANYBIO. The accomplishments he made during his life are notable. --Bryce Wilson | talk 06:04, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
• What accomplishments? (1) "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times." He hasn't. (2) "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field." Lack of reliable sources suggest he did not make a "widely recognized contribution". – Muboshgu (talk) 03:21, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
• Keep. 20 seasons (!) in the minors, 2,080 games, 2, 319 hits.. thats a fairly successful professional career.. in addition to his managerial stint mentioned above. Spanneraol (talk) 14:17, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
• There's no coverage suggesting that's notable. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:19, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
• Delete Per nominator... only has one source (a statistical database). Sure he won a championship and played 20 minor league seasons, but doesn't quite hit the floor if you ask me. Go Phightins! (talk) 23:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:GNG with no significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources.—Bagumba (talk) 02:14, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Per SpannerAol. Alex (talk) 17:14, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

:— Note to closing admin: Alexsautographs (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. —Bagumba (talk) 18:05, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

• Keep I agree with Spanneraol. Rlendog (talk) 18:09, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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