Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Staniforth Hext
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The result was keep. Clear consensus that subject passes WP:ARTIST. (non-admin closure) Ifnord (talk) 05:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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This is one of a group of ancestral sketches previously listed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/William_Staniforth which was declined because many voters were opposed to the bulk nature of the listing. The article appears fail WP:GNG by a wide margin. UninvitedCompany 21:43, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
Oppose Multiple sources:
- https://trove.nla.gov.au/people/1487168?c=people
- http://www.artnet.com/artists/charles-staniforth-captain-hext/
- http://staniforthfamily.com/CharlesStaniforthHext.html
- https://www.joseflebovicgallery.com/pages/books/CL181-38/after-charles-staniforth-hext-british/military-barracks-sydney-cricket-match/?soldItem=true — Preceding unsigned comment added by StaniforthHistorian (talk • contribs) 21:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep This article also does not contain all the information that would help establish the subject's notability. In this case, his lithographs are held in the National Gallery of Australia [https://cs.nga.gov.au/search.cfm?creirn=34842&order_select=1&view_select=4], the National Library of Australia [https://trove.nla.gov.au/picture/result?q-field0=&q-type0=all&q-term0=&q-field1=title%3A&q-type1=all&q-term1=&q-field2=creator%3A&q-type2=all&q-term2=Hext&q-field3=subject%3A&q-type3=all&q-term3=&q-year1-date=&q-year2-date=&l-advformat=&l-advformat=&l-advformat=&l-advformat=&l-advformat=&l-availability=&l-discipline=&l-language=&q-location=ANL&q-location=ANL%3AAJA&q-location=ANL%3ASAL&q-location=DBM%3AJ&q-location=ANL%3AMA&q-location=ANL%3APEAU&q-location=ZBSA&nuc=ANL&nuc=ANL%3AAJA&nuc=ANL%3ASAL&nuc=334658&nuc=DBM%3AJ&nuc=327397&nuc=ANL%3AMA&nuc=ANL%3APEAU&nuc=ZBSA] and the National Museum of Australia [http://collectionsearch.nma.gov.au/ce/Hext%20Captain?object=57006], so he meets WP:ARTIST #4 "The person's work (or works) has: (a) become a significant monument, (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums." There is also a biography of him, Charles Staniforth Hext. Soldier and artist, by George Deas Brown, 1981. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:17, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 16:41, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
::I agree he is notable, but to be clear the items mentioned above are all lithograhphs created by lithographer C Hutchins, of the original drawings by Hext.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 11:29, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep, meets WP:ARTIST, works held in several notable museums/galleries, listed above by {{u|RebeccaGreen}} (thanks:)), there are also some lithographs by Charles Hutchins based on Hext's drawings in the Allport Library and Museum of Fine Arts - [https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/all/search/results?qu=Charles&qu=Hext listed here], (Hutchins also produced a lithograph, based on another Hext drawing, of a cricket match at military barracks, sydney, apparently the first depiction of a cricket match in australia, [http://archival.sl.nsw.gov.au/Details/archive/110339602?_ga=2.187999144.162419378.1546320683-1806788212.1465286888 print held in the Dixson collection] of the State Library of NSW, thats pretty significant:)) Coolabahapple (talk) 05:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Art works held by major institutions. Subject of 3rd party publication/s. Alll easy to find. Seems insufficient BEFORE. Aoziwe (talk) 12:35, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep widely mentioned in sources, although not in much depth. His drawings are not included in any collection as far as I can see: what is included are lithographs of his sketches, created any another artist, and books that include his drawings. However, his work has been accorded importance through reproduction and multiple mentions. This is enough for GNG given the era.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 11:26, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep There is enough info to pass WP:ARTIST. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 12:40, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Article needs development, and it should be kept as he is notable per WP:ARTIST. I added a new section for Collections, three listings + citations that User:RebeccaGreen found and listed above. There are other citations to add, mentioned by editors above, that could be added to the article. Netherzone (talk) 15:43, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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