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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Stankievech

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

=[[:Charles Stankievech]]=

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The article does not establish notability according to Wikipedia guidelines. It does not cite significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Most mentions are local newspapers and none are properly cited. Without clear independent sources demonstrating lasting notability, this article does not meet Wikipedia's inclusion standards. Cagrantsas (talk) 15:49, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:Keep. The article actually only has one primary source about a 2007 video project, I suppose that sentence could be removed. Otherwise, the subject has been covered extensively by independent outlets such as CBC News, Edmonton Journal, Calgary Herald, etc. A simple search on Google and Newspapers.com shows that the subject passes WP:GNG with flying colours. I will see about adding more sources and expanding the article over the next day or two. MediaKyle (talk) 15:56, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

::Note that the nominator later altered their rationale, changing "primary sources" to "local newspapers". MediaKyle (talk) 18:33, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and Canada. Shellwood (talk) 16:10, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete: The one gallery exhibit in Oakville in the CBC article was at a minor art gallery (source 7), so that doesn't meet artist notability. No listing in Getty ULAN [https://www.getty.edu/vow/ULANServlet?english=Y&find=Charles+Stankievech&role=&page=1&nation=] and a lack of critical notice, TOOSOON. Oaktree b (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :This is the only critical review I could find [https://www.aci-iac.ca/art-books/war-art-in-canada/key-works/the-soniferous-aether-of-ther-land-beyond-the-land/], still not enough. Oaktree b (talk) 17:08, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :I really don't understand this vote. I've been adding plenty of good sources that qualify as significant coverage, from independent outlets. Notability is easily established in my eyes. If you look him up and review the sources, you'll find his work has been displayed in many other galleries as well, I just haven't written that into the article yet. MediaKyle (talk) 17:11, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
  • ::Artists have their work exhibited, that's not notable; one of the notability requirements for artists is to be the subject of a major gallery exhibit or their permanent collection; we'd look at the AGO, the McMichael, the MOMA, that sort of thing. This person hasn't had anything outside of a small independent gallery in Oakville. See here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals].Oaktree b (talk) 21:45, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :::See WP:NBASIC. The criterion for having had exhibitions in a major gallery is irrelevant here. The following is a list of secondary, independent sources providing significant coverage on the subject:
  • :::* [https://bordercrossingsmag.com/article/outposting-edgings-towards-art-and-science-an-interview-with-charles-stanki Border Crossing Magazine, 2013]
  • :::* [https://www.newspapers.com/image/468464098/ The Ottawa Citizen, 2013]
  • :::* [https://www.cbc.ca/arts/at-a-small-art-gallery-in-oakville-ont-a-meteor-is-about-to-strike-1.7401043 CBC News, 2024]
  • :::* [https://www.gallerieswest.ca/magazine/stories/charles-stankievech/ Galleries West, 2013]
  • :::* [https://www.aci-iac.ca/art-books/war-art-in-canada/key-works/the-soniferous-aether-of-ther-land-beyond-the-land/ War Art in Canada by Laura Branden]
  • :::* [https://calgaryherald.com/entertainment/local-arts/where-did-we-come-from-epic-contemporary-calgary-exhibit-asks-elemental-questions-about-our-origins Calgary Herald, 2023]
  • :::* [https://ago.ca/agoinsider/behind-desert-turned-glass AGO Insider, 2023] - published by the Art Gallery of Ontario
  • :::* [https://canadianart.ca/reviews/charles-stankievech-monument-as-ruin/ Canadian Art, 2015]
  • :::* [https://www.newspapers.com/image/950843642/ The Toronto Star, 2014]
  • :::I'm quite sure there's more, too. I've only just begun digging into his career, and I've already found all of this. MediaKyle (talk) 21:58, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :@Oaktree b, I'm wondering if you might take a look at all the new sources that have been presented at the discussion. Netherzone (talk) 20:24, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

* Delete: Unfortunately, not enough valid secondary sourcing to prove notability, for now. It's WP:TOOSOON. m a MANÍ1990(talk | contribs) 22:01, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

  • Comment: Since the start of this nomination I've uncovered seven interviews, exhibitions in many galleries, and a wealth of other sources that can be added to this article. I'm going to hold off for now, as I've already improved the article quite a bit without getting too deep into expanding the prose. If others do not feel this article meets notability right now for one reason or another, kindly allow it to be userfied into my userspace so that I can continue developing it. MediaKyle (talk) 22:51, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - this internationally known artist clearly meets not only WP:BASIC, but WP:GNG, and also WP:NARTIST criteria for inclusion. In addition to the seven sources brought to the discussion by {{u|MediaKyle}}, the artist has work in the permanent collection of the Museum of Contemporary Art, Montreal[https://macm.org/en/collections/oeuvre/loveland/], [https://macm.org/en/collections/artiste/charles-stankievech/]; the Agnes Etherington Art Centre at Queen’s University[https://www.stankievech.net/projects/monument/media/Stankievech_Portfolio_Ruin.pdf][https://agnes.queensu.ca/explore/collections/object/monument-as-ruin-wreck/], and the Musée des beaux-arts de Montréal [https://www.mbam.qc.ca/en/works/67249/]. He has shown at The Courtauld, the National Gallery of Canada, Palais de Tokyo, Paris; HKW, Berlin; Louisiana Museum of Modern Art, Denmark; National Gallery of Canada; has shown in the Venice Bienniale. He has lectured at dOCUMENTA (13) and the 8th Berlin Biennale, and his writing has been published by Verso, MIT, Sternberg Press, e-flux, and Princeton Architectural Press.[http://supercommunity.e-flux.com/authors/charles-stankievech/],[https://courtauld.ac.uk/whats-on/charles-stankievech-and-the-double-agent/]. In addition to the reviews listed above, there's this in Art in America:[https://www.artnews.com/art-in-america/aia-reviews/charles-stankievech-62060/]. For some reason my BEFORE search is showing lots and lots of significant coverage, not sure why that isn't showing up for others. Netherzone (talk) 14:18, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

:Additionally, he received the notable Sobey Art Award, Canada's pre-eminent and largest award for contemporary Canadian artists under 35.[https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/ontario-charles-stankievech-1.3833361] Also as an author/academic his work has been cited over 100 times. @Cagrantsas, I'm just wondering why you were only able to find {{tq|mentions in local newspapers and none are properly cited (or independent)}}. Did you use Google or a different search engine? Netherzone (talk) 15:27, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.