Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlotte Fleming (3rd nomination)

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Previous 2 AfDs resulted in clear consensus to delete. My rationale for this 3rd AfD will be basically the same as what User:Dougal18 said in the previous one. Fleming does not seem to meet WP:GNG and articles from clubs that she plays for or used to play for are not independent of the subject so do not confer notability. [https://fawslfulltime.co.uk/2022/09/05/london-city-lionesses-midfielder-fleming-sidelined-with-long-term-injury/ FA WSL Full Time] is the only source that I can find that might contribute towards GNG but, on its own, is not enough.

Source analysis will follow shortly. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:38, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and England. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:39, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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| source = https://web.archive.org/web/20211119201940/https://www.londoncitylionesses.com/charlottefleming

| ind = n

| ind_just = Her employer at the time

| rel = n

| rel_just =

| sig = n

| sig_just = Basic profile page on club website

}}

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| source = https://web.archive.org/web/20210122063203/https://shekicks.net/leicester-city-women-sign-chelsea-midfielder/

| ind = y

| ind_just =

| rel = y

| rel_just =

| sig = n

| sig_just = Basic transfer announcement with minimal biographical info followed by a quote from Fleming herself

}}

{{ source assess

| source = https://www.lcfc.com/news/1982241?lang=en

| ind = n

| ind_just = Her employer at the time

| rel = n

| rel_just =

| sig = n

| sig_just = Basic transfer announcement

}}

{{ source assess

| source = https://www.londoncitylionesses.com/post/charlotte-fleming-commits-to-the-pride

| ind = n

| ind_just = Her employer at the time

| rel = n

| rel_just =

| sig = n

| sig_just = Basic transfer announcement followed by a quote from the manager and then Fleming herself

}}

{{ source assess

| source = https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57664281

| ind = y

| ind_just =

| rel = y

| rel_just =

| sig = n

| sig_just = Announcement of release from Leicester, several players are mentioned but Fleming is not addressed in any detail

}}

{{ source assess

| source = https://www.football.london/womens-football/london-city-lionesses-fleming-injury-24879982

| ind = y

| ind_just =

| rel = y

| rel_just =

| sig = n

| sig_just = This is the closest to WP:SIGCOV of all of the sources currently in the article. As you would expect, since an ambulance was called, her injury is mentioned in the match report. That said, the article contains no detailed info about Fleming herself and so this is no better than a match report mentioning her scoring a goal or getting sent off.

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{{ source assess

| source = https://www.lcfc.com/news/1982439?lang=en

| ind = n

| ind_just = Her employer at the time

| rel = n

| rel_just =

| sig = n

| sig_just = Mostly just long quotes from Fleming herself

}}

{{ source assess

| source = https://fawslfulltime.co.uk/2022/09/05/london-city-lionesses-midfielder-fleming-sidelined-with-long-term-injury/

| ind = y

| ind_just =

| rel = y

| rel_just = RS as far as I am aware

| sig = -

| sig_just = Goes further than the Football London match report now that we know more info about her ACL and MCL injury. The article also contains very brief background info on her career but not enough to be clear SIGCOV in my view.

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}} Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:48, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete- Still fails GNG. She now plays for Watford but that doesn't seem to have generated any sigcov. Dougal18 (talk) 13:36, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete: Sourcing I find is all to the football club's website, agree with the source table, just not enough for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 15:45, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete and SALT - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:18, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

::I agree with WP:SALT. I can't think of a time when it's been applied to a female footballer but the fact that this has been recreated so many times against consensus is deeply concerning. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:23, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete and SALT Subject does not meet the GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV as it stands. User:Let'srun 19:54, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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