Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlotte Lawrence

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Non-notable model lacking non-trivial, in-depth support. Fails WP:N. reddogsix (talk) 21:40, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

• Merge / Redirect to Bill Lawrence (TV producer)#Personal life, probably the most obvious target. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:19, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:19, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

• Delete a non-notable teenaged model.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:41, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
• Delete a [http://az617363.vo.msecnd.net/imgmodels/models/MD10004159/print-914836a659667856796683a3dcec8739f966_thumb.jpg model] who has not gained any major contracts or obvious media coverage, a few things but not enough, delete as a case of TOOSOON. Dysklyver 22:11, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

:: Do both of you think that "Charlotte Lawrence" is an implausible redirect that is unlikely to ever be created? I don't see anything in WP:INVALIDBIO that says you must delete a topic that falls short of the guidelines. See WP:ATD. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:43, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

• Delete. Fanpage having no RS. Models are not notable per se. Agricola44 (talk) 18:48, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

:* [http://nypost.com/2017/07/21/seaplane-splashes-down-in-east-river-passengers-rescued/ Here] is a source confirming her relationship with a notable person. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 08:53, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

::*So what? INHERIT is not really justification for redirect, which I assume is what you're implying. This one is a delete. Agricola44 (talk) 12:37, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

::::WP:ATD-R (which is part of the deletion policy) disagrees with you. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:54, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

:::::Because this person has no real reason to be mentioned by WP, it seems to me that what you're saying implies that spouses, children, siblings, etc. of people described in WP should have redirects. I think that's nonsense. Agricola44 (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

::::::Yes and WP:INVALIDBIO (part of the notability guidelines) says that can happen, giving Jason Allen Alexander and Brooklyn Beckham as examples. Similarly, consider The Electras. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:19, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

:::::::Let me cut to the chase. I'm not changing my !vote and will be sitting out the rest of this AfD. Best, Agricola44 (talk) 15:14, 25 October 2017 (UTC).

• Delete--I am not convinced by Ritchie's argument(s) about redirecting it.That would pretty much guarantee every sibling/ward/spouse/parent of a notable individual a Wiki-Redirect!Winged Blades of Godric^{On leave} 17:38, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
• Delete Subject has to create her own notability. Rogermx (talk) 19:04, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

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