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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chester Adams

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn Davewild (talk) 12:41, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

=[[Chester Adams]]=

:{{la|Chester Adams}} ([{{fullurl:Chester Adams|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chester Adams}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

American college football player, drafted by an NFL team but apparently never played. No playing professional = failing WP:ATHLETE, and there aren't sources to make him notable in any other way. Nyttend (talk) 20:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

*Delete, as it says in the article, he did not play in any preseason or regular season games. Can not find anything to show he meets the GNG either. A new name 2008 (talk) 01:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:*Keep, the new references below definetly show he meets the GNG. A new name 2008 (talk) 11:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:*Comment, WP:ATHLETE says "People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport" (my emphasis). He has not competed in the NFL and there is not substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources to meet the GNG, therefore he is not notable according to our guidelines. A new name 2008 (talk) 02:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 03:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 03:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep - He meets WP:GNG: [http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/081106/football_20060811048.shtml The Athens Banner-Herald], [http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2007/oct/01/georgia-needs-its-blocking/ Knoxville News Sentinel], [http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=MT&s_site=macon&p_multi=MT&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=10504F5B5C0AE3B0&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM Macon Telegraph], [http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/091807/uga_144134.shtml Augusta Chronicle], [http://www.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=699733&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid= Rivals], [http://www.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=755651&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid= 2], [http://georgia.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=2&c=357726&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fgeorgia.scout.com%2f2%2f357726.html Scout], [http://georgia.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=2&c=463553&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fgeorgia.scout.com%2f2%2f463553.html 2], [http://alabama.scout.com/a.z?s=14&p=2&c=220641&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2falabama.scout.com%2f2%2f220641.html 3], [http://georgia.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=2&c=499339&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fgeorgia.scout.com%2f2%2f499339.html 4], [http://georgia.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=2&c=427845&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fgeorgia.scout.com%2f2%2f427845.html 5]. (Also, saying the wording of WP:ATHLETE means playing in a game is necessary is not definitive. Like shown above it is contingent upon the interpretation of the word "competed" -- surely he "competed" in the NFL as a reserve for play time. I'm not saying that's how it should be interpreted, but the criteria is indeed vague.) Strikehold (talk) 03:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep. Concur with Strikehold. This player has received significant non-trivial coverage and meets general notability guidelines. He has been the subject of feature article coverage in the mainstream media including the following: (1) Feature article titled[http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/081106/football_20060811048.shtml "Adams survives a scare"], (2) Second feature article on him titled, [http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=MT&s_site=macon&p_multi=MT&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=10504F5B5C0AE3B0&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM "Big Cheese Hopes for Big Impact Saturday"], (3) Third feature article titled [http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/InfoWeb?p_action=doc&p_topdoc=1&p_docnum=1&p_sort=YMD_date:D&p_product=NewsBank&p_text_direct-0=document_id=(%201031EA9DF4B1CE27%20)&p_docid=1031EA9DF4B1CE27&p_theme=aggregated5&p_queryname=1031EA9DF4B1CE27&f_openurl=yes&p_nbid=L5CS4CJFMTI0NTY0NjQ2MS4xNTE4NTk6MToxMDoxMjguMTIuMC4w&&p_multi=BGNB "Luverne Lineman Adams in Top Shape - Yountest of Seven Kids, Adams Headed for UGA"], Birmingham News, June 3, 2004, (4) Fourth feature article titled [http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/InfoWeb?p_action=doc&p_topdoc=1&p_docnum=1&p_sort=YMD_date:D&p_product=NewsBank&p_text_direct-0=document_id=(%2011BD4C4DB078C488%20)&p_docid=11BD4C4DB078C488&p_theme=aggregated5&p_queryname=11BD4C4DB078C488&f_openurl=yes&p_nbid=Y61Y51MKMTI0NTY0NjU5NS4xMTcwMTY6MToxMDoxMjguMTIuMC4w&&p_multi=BGNB "Luverne's Adams turns fan to foe Bulldogs tackle grew up a 'Roll Tide fan'"], Birmingham News, September 21, 2007, and (5) Fifth feature article titled [http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/InfoWeb?p_action=doc&p_topdoc=1&p_docnum=1&p_sort=YMD_date:D&p_product=NewsBank&p_text_direct-0=document_id=(%201003B6C9A4740BA9%20)&p_docid=1003B6C9A4740BA9&p_theme=aggregated5&p_queryname=1003B6C9A4740BA9&f_openurl=yes&p_nbid=V63B53IMMTI0NTY0NjcwNy42MjcyNToxOjEwOjEyOC4xMi4wLjA&&p_multi=BGNB Luverne Lineman Commits to UGA], Birmingham News, January 15, 2004], and there are more too. Even if he never plays a game in the NFL, this guy satisfies general notability standards. Cbl62 (talk) 04:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Longstanding consensus is that someone like this fails WP:ATHLETE, as "compete" has long been held to mean playing in an actual game. However, I agree on his passing the GNG due to your sources, Cbl62, but I can't withdraw due to the delete vote. Nyttend (talk) 05:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep longstanding consensus has held that someone lilke this does not fail WP:ATHLETE (unless it's been re-written once again to prevent college football players from ever possibly gaining notability regardless of how much press they get). While the article itself is presently weak, it certainly can be improved and expanded to show significant coverage from the amateur career.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Withdraw, due to striking of delete vote. Despite Paulmcdonald's claims, he clearly fails WP:ATHLETE, but like Gerald Ford, he's notable for other reasons (albeit rather less significant), and thus should be kept. Nyttend (talk) 02:51, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

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