Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Ferazzoli

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Non-notable hockey player who played only a couple dozen games out of the low minors and semi-pro loops. Unsourced BLP; only source a casual mention failing WP:ROUTINE. Fails WP:NHOCKEY. Prod removed on an inaccurate assertion that the player does indeed meet NHOCKEY's criterion of playing 100+ games in "fully professional" leagues. Ravenswing 06:54, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:22, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

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• Keep - This player meets criteria #3, #4 and #6 of WP:NHOCKEY. The CHL, ECHL, EPHL, and SPHL are all fully professional hockey leagues, easily on par are superior to Finland's second tier Mestis or the Swedish second tier HockeyAllsvenskan. Excluding games played in the semi-pro MAHL and FHL, this player has played in 140 fully-professional games (150 including playoffs) during his 5 year career. Additionally, he meets criteria #4 by being named the MVP of the 2009 EPHL playoffs, and #6 by being a member of Team USA at the 2003 Winter Universiade. Dolovis (talk) 14:44, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

:*Reply: As with the other similar AfD currently up, you're once again defying what you know to be the consensus on NHOCKEY. Criterion #3 specifically excludes lower leagues such as the CHL, the EPHL and the SPHL, which are by no means comparable with the Mestis. It does include the ECHL, and requires that a player has played 100+ games at that level or above; Ferazzoli played 58. Criterion #4 requires that a player have achieved "preeminent honours (all-time top ten career scorer, First Team All-Star, All-American)" at the CHL/UHL/major junior level; since he played only nine games at that level, he doesn't qualify, and even if the semi-pro EPHL qualified for #4 -- which it doesn't -- being a playoff MVP is not part of the list, and consensus has held that it doesn't. Criterion #6 requires that a player have "[p]layed on a senior national team (such as at the Olympic Games or World Championship);" Ferrazoli didn't. As it happens, here's the roster of the 2003 national team, and given that at the time Ferrazoli was playing for a non-varsity club team in college, the premise that he was skilled enough to play on the national team is farcical. The Winter Universiade is in fact a collegiate exhibition. Ravenswing 02:20, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

• Delete Ravenswing is correct in his reply to Dolovis. He does not meet any of the requirements of WP:NHOCKEY and doesn't appear to meet GNG based on a search. -DJSasso (talk) 14:10, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
• Delete Fails NHOCKEY and GNG.204.126.132.231 (talk) 16:39, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
• Delete Fails NHOCKEY and GNG. Patken4 (talk) 21:13, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Fails NHOCKEY and GNG. Hwy43 (talk) 08:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

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