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this article does not meet Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. The topic lacks significant coverage in reliable, independent, and verifiable sources. Most of the references are either partisan, locally produced, or non-scholarly, and the event is not discussed in academic or mainstream historical literature. Furthermore, the article appears to violate Wikipedia’s neutral point of view policy by presenting a one-sided narrative without acknowledging other perspectives or providing balanced context. Without reliable sources and a neutral tone, this topic does not merit a standalone article on Wikipedia.

Wikivro (talk) 06:27, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 June 23. —cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 06:44, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete The article does not use encyclopedic language, its content and title are heavily biased, and it cites government-linked Turkish and Azerbaijani sources. If there was a massacre, it should be based on reliable and scholarly works, not Anadolu Agency, etc. ----Երևանցի talk 07:51, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
  • :Keep I don't want you to be surprised, But This thing is Very Known and famous in Azerbaijan, And most of sources I got it from Azerbaijani Wikipedia, and there are other sources that aren't Azerbaijani?
  • :And I don't really see the problem of the page
  • :It has a lot of sources And There are Sources that aren't Azerbaijani, Suraya222 (talk) 10:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC) - non-WP:GS/AA user --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
  • :Keep Anadolu agency cites multiple historians and scholars, the exact pages as well. I don’t see what’s so unreliable about this? Are you saying that Azerbaijani and Turkish sources are inaccurate and unusable now simply because they choose to document about a genocide their people went through? The atrocities are even mentioned by Iranian historians like Ahmad Kasravi who is an eyewitness of it all. The page uses encyclopedic language and is understandable for readers. How is the content and title biased? The Urmia massacre done in revenge for Mar Shimun (a major part of Cilovluq) for example, multiple sources document about this—including English sources—such as the historian Mehrdad Kia with his book “The Clash of Empires and the Rise of Kurdish Proto-Nationalism, 1905–1926 Ismail Agha Simko and the Campaign for an Independent Kurdish State” page 121. 2A02:AA1:1164:2A69:617B:D586:307A:A0A3 (talk) 11:25, 23 June 2025 (UTC) - non-WP:GS/AA user --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Discrimination, Events, Iran, and Azerbaijan. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:47, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Keep Sorry but you are very incorrect, Cilovluq is very mainstream and famous in Azerbaijan. So instead of nominating everything for deletion simply because you don’t research enough, maybe go on google and search it up. They have even done excavations and found bones, there is also photographic evidence and eyewitness testimony as provided in the page. Also I still don’t think you understand, the sources are literally academic and from eyewitness testimony, and also historians? You know this event is highly documented in books right? It’s very known that the Assyrians and Armenians under Agha Petros committed atrocities in order to establish an Assyrian region and get rid of the Muslims in Iranian Azerbaijan. And the page literally provided perspectives from other authors?!? It includes reliable sources and a neutral tone, how about you provide some examples when nominating the whole page for deletion. The page has a total of 70 sources, all of which is accessible in one way or another. And we can add even more if that’s necessary, the genocide deserves more recognition from English readers. The Muslim people of Iranian Azerbaijan deserve recognition. the ottomans literally cried when they recaptured the areas from the Christian’s, it was truly horrible. The muslims

:of Iranian Azerbaijan have tried to get recognized, an English page on the matter is a good way to get recognition. 2A02:AA1:1164:2A69:617B:D586:307A:A0A3 (talk) 11:15, 23 June 2025 (UTC) - non-WP:GS/AA user --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Delete: Support per nom. R3YBOl (🌲) 11:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Here we go again Why the hell you want the page to be deleted? Suraya222 (talk) 12:03, 23 June 2025 (UTC) - non-WP:GS/AA user --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Keep: the page itself is well detailed and talks about the genocide in Iranian azerbajian, the page itself lists a good amount of sources about the genocide, the page itself only needs some clean up since the page is long, not necessary to delete. Jsanihsjsn (talk) 11:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC) - non-WP:GS/AA user --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Delete I'll be blunt. This looks like yet another poorly sourced, POV worded WP:TENDENTIOUS article to serve as some sort of counter against the Armenian genocide and Assyrian genocide. It's also created by a non-WP:GS/AA user, and heck, all the "Keep" votes are also by non-WP:GS/AA users, and thus I've striked their comments. I recall a smart user once saying that there are no coincidences in WP:GS/AA articles, something is clearly up. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::@HistoryofIran I can smell WP:MEAT and I think someone is trying to avoid the block again. Kajmer05 (talk) 15:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Delete per WP:G5, article created in violation of extended confirmed sanctions. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 08:40, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Question - Is there anything precluding that non-WP:GS/AA are not able to vote in this AfD? Like @Kajmer05 said above, there is highly likely meatpuppetry involved in the making of this article, especially as a high number of meats have been created and blocked since January that focus on 20th-century conflicts related to several West Asian groups. Given the votes that were strikethrough'ed, some clarity would be useful.

:Surayeproject3 (talk) 14:21, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Delete per User:HistoryOfIran; not created in good faith, not reliably sourced. OhNoitsJamie Talk 19:56, 26 June 2025 (UTC)