Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Community United Methodist Church of Pacific Palisades

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Per WP:NCHURCH needs to meet WP:GNG. The mere fact it burned down doesn't make it notable. Seems like something notable for one event, similar to what is described in WP:1E to me. —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {u - t? - _uselessc} 21:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {u - t? - _uselessc} 21:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture, Christianity, and California. Shellwood (talk) 21:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

:Comment: Redirect targets could be United Methodist Church or List of Methodist churches#United States. Merge target could be Pacific Palisades, Los Angeles#Culture. This comment is not a vote in favor of deletion or redirection. jengod (talk) 21:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

:Keep The church congregation founded the town in the 1920s. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:06, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

• Delete I'm not seeing WP:GNG-qualifying coverage of the building. SportingFlyer T·C 22:21, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
• Keep The building as a building need not have coverage. A "church" in common usage refers both to the congregation of people and the religious building in which it meets. Regardless, this coverage has been significantly expanded since nomination and appears to meet GNG with adequate RSes. Jclemens (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
• Weak keep: It looks like the building had marginal historic notability and received substantial treatment by the local historical society ([https://www.circlingthenews.com/patrick-healy-a-newscaster-turned-historian-strives-hard-to-stump-optimists/]). The congregation may have additional notability beyond the structure, considering the amount of material that went into the documentary. I'm inclined to believe most of it is locked away offline. Even still, a Google search exempting the word "fire" gives me hope that this is notable. ~ Pbritti (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
• Keep. The LA Times and Roberts News sources clear WP:GNG separate from the coverage of its destruction. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

:Keep kind of local coverage, but in depth and California is a sizable state. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:21, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

• Keep. Pacific Palisades was founded as a Methodist community; this building and the congregation that make up the church are important to the city's history. The article may need improvement, but it's worth having. Penny Richards (talk) 02:06, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
• Keep - "First house of worship established in what is Pacific Palisades", which makes it an essential landmark in the neighborhood's history. Scanlan (talk) 02:43, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
• Keep - Historic congregation with a recognized role in the development of the area. -Wil540 art (talk) 15:30, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

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