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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Convoy (Transformers)

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Prime (Transformers). (non-admin closure) Acather96 (talk) 08:26, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

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This article fails to demonstrate like Emperor of Destruction why it is notable without reliable third person sources. Dwanyewest (talk) 23:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep, a quick search found numerous third party references to the term. I added some to the article. Mathewignash (talk) 23:56, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:12, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Merge to Prime (Transformers), since it's really just a different language equivalent and the title is applied to all the same characters. Jclemens (talk) 00:27, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

::Not a true statement. Nitro Convoy is not called Nitro Prime in the US, she's Override. Flame Convoy isn't Flame Prime, he's Scourge, Live Convoy isn't Live Prime, he's Evac, Big Convoy is simply Big Convoy in the US, meanwhile the US character of Vector Prime is called VECTOR PRIME in japan... I don't see how you can say "Prime" and "Convoy" mean the same thing. I've given 5 examples of where it is NOT the same thing. Mathewignash (talk) 20:29, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Merge to the Transformers character lists. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 04:10, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Merge to Prime (Transformers). While there are exceptions, "Primes" in Western fiction are "Convoys" in Japanese fiction and vice versa. The exceptions could be noted in a paragraph. --Khajidha (talk) 17:10, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Merge Both articles prominently and unambigously state that they are discussing the same thing 'Convoy is the Japanese Equivalent of Prime.', 'The Japanese equivalent of Prime is Convoy.' Assuming thats true I think theres only room for one article and naming conventions & I think relevant canon (although I've never really liked Transformers too much) says it should be Prime. Bob House 884 (talk) 23:31, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep Important character. Many notable references to him. Stickee (talk) 10:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

::You might want to note that, according to the article, 'Convoy' is not a character at all, but a title or honourific applied to fictional characters - sort of like 'Grand Moff' Tarkin in Star Wars. Bob House 884 (talk) 11:09, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

:::Point taken. Changed !vote. Stickee (talk) 12:14, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.