Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cory High School

:{{la|Cory High School}} ([{{fullurl:Cory High School|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cory High School}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

A proposed school that will not open until 2011. Firstly, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Secondly, what is this school actually notable for? All we have at this date is a press release with a name for the school. While no doubt the argument claiming high schools are inherently notable will be made, how can this argument (an incredibly weak one when used for existing schools) be used to justify keeping articles on schools two years away from opening? Mattinbgn\^talk 12:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages as they are all created together and the same arguments above apply to them as well:

:{{la|John Monash Science School}}

:{{la|Nossal High School}} -- Mattinbgn\^talk 12:41, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 12:41, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —Mattinbgn\^talk 12:42, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
• Delete all — I believe that established high schools are notable, but the crystal ball bit does get in the way of this a little bit :-) No way that these can be deserving of articles at this stage; perhaps recreate a few years down the line? Nyttend (talk) 13:17, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
• Delete all three. As mentioned, WP:CRYSTAL. Can be re-written in the future if the schools are indeed notable.  florrie  13:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
• Keep John Monash Science School Currently under construction[http://www.jmss.vic.edu.au/node/45] (not WP:CRYSTAL), [http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=%22John+Monash+Science+School%22&meta= 390+ google hits], notable as Victoria's first maths, science and technology secondary school.[http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/First-science-school-to-be-built-in-Vic/2007/08/13/1186857377101.html]. Melburnian (talk) 13:41, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
• Keep. There are very few public selective schools in Australia, and very few that are built from scratch - I can't think of another one in the last couple of decades. As such, they're quite notable, and there's already been more than enough sources to merit an article - something which is guaranteed to grow as construction progresses on the three schools. The nominator is also wrong: two of the three schools are currently under construction and due to open at the start of the next school year. Rebecca (talk) 14:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
• Delete all three per nom. Racepacket (talk) 15:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
• Keep all - already there are enough sources to establish verifiability. Take [http://www.theage.com.au/national/scientists-honoured-20090519-bcwg.html this] for example which indicates that two of the schools will be notable for their selection policy. WP:CRYSTAL is not applicable since it is certain that these schools will open; they are in no different position to forthcoming CDs, for example, on which articles are created when their release date has been verified. Deleting now only to recreate later smacks of policy wonking. TerriersFan (talk) 01:29, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
• Keep all - all three schools are notable because they are the products of a major policy change in, and expansion of, selective schools in Victoria, Australia. They represent a doubling of the number of wholly selective schools in Victoria. Two of them have already closed their application process for 2010 (on 29 May 2009), so this is not "Crystal Balling". Plus, these are stubs, awaiting expansion. Plus they already have some references.--Design (talk) 08:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
• Oh yes, and they are also notable for being purpose built. VCASS will move into a purpose built school in July 2009, but as far as I know, prior to this the last purpose built selective school in Victoria was Mac.Robertson High School over 80 years ago.--Design (talk) 09:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
• Also Nossal High and Cory High are notable because they will be the first schools in Victoria to be selective via general academic exam AND co-educational. Exam for Nossal/Melb. High/Mac.Rob will be held on 19 June 2009.
• Delete All - none meet WP:ORG. Articles can be created later if they become notable. Nick-D (talk) 10:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
• I have added more references to the John Monash Science School article, to further substantiate notability under WP:ORG. This stub will grow.--Design (talk) 12:50, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
• I have added more refs from national and local news media for Nossal High.--Design (talk) 13:04, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete all per nom. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
• A number of sources have been added to these articles that contradict the nomination. WP:NOTVOTE. Rebecca (talk) 16:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
• Keep per meeting the notability guidelines. Substantial coverage for notable school being constructed. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
• Keep We as a practical matter consider all documented high schools notable, in large part to avoid debates like this--at least 90% of them will turn out to meet the criteria if someone works at it properly, & its not worth removing the other 10% --especially since AfDs surely have a greater error rate than that. True, this does not necessarily apply to totally new schools, but in this case there is sufficiently reliable information. DGG (talk) 04:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

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