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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cromer Street

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. MBisanz talk 02:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

=[[Cromer Street]]=

:{{la|Cromer Street}} ([{{fullurl:Cromer Street|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cromer Street}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

Non-notable London street. jenuk1985 (talk) 21:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Delete Not notable and no references either. Ijanderson (talk) 22:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

:*Note Above user is the nominator. --Oakshade (talk) 02:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

:*Regarding that WP:STREET essay (not even a proposed guideline) first of all, the London metropolitan area has over 13 million people, so that means 260. London is the capitol of the UK and historically the British Empire and still the British Commonwealth. Double that. Add the international financial and cultural importance of this city and you can triple that. Besides, if a street passes WP:NOTABILITY as this one does, an arbitrary "formula" as stipulated in WP:STREET is irrelevant.--Oakshade (talk) 02:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

::*The relative importance of the city is irrelevant as far as WP:STREET is concerned. However, a highly notable city is likely to have streets and roads which have their own intrinsic notability, something specifically mentioned in WP:STREET as being a separate criterion (and as such exactly as you say in your last sentence - it passes notability, and therefore is not subject to the stipulations of one street per 50,000 people). Cromer Street appears to be one such street, and thus - even though I'm the primary writer of WP:STREET - I agree that this should be kept. BTW, as far as not being even a proposed guideline, that is true, though it is used as a rule of thumb by many editors (the whatlinkshere will show how widely used it is). Many essays are used thus; Geogre's Law is not a guideline either, but it is widely cited at AFD, for example. Grutness...wha? 07:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Keep - Is the in-depth subject of secondary sources, thus easily passing the core criteria of WP:NOTABILITY. [http://books.google.com/books?id=BHQt9WXrrs4C&pg=PA284&dq=%22Cromer+Street%22][http://books.google.com/books?id=W2ACAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA454&dq=%22Cromer+Street%22#PPA455,M1][http://books.google.com/books?id=5iiHuJoH0XkC&pg=PA1991&dq=%22Cromer+Street%22]. Even a novel was named "The Cromer Street Chronicles"[http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10C10F63F5B157A93C0A9178AD85F438285F9]--Oakshade (talk) 02:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable road. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:41, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep Clearly notable street, with multiple good references in the articles, and additional ones supplied here. The actual books found by Oakshade are particularly telling. Very careless indeed to delete without making even a preliminary search. That numerical guideline is quite clearly ridiculous.-- not to mention the impossibility of finding a way to use it on a particular article. DGG (talk) 05:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
  • lolwhat....er...keep. Trivially easily sourced. WP:STREET is a rule of thumb talking about middling-sized cities and towns. London isn't most places, and most places aren't London. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 11:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep - what does Jenuk1985 have against Cromer Street? Esasus (talk) 21:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.