Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DXJR

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Filipino college radio station. No assertion of notability, regional at best. MSJapan (talk) 08:25, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Lemongirl942 (talk) 12:12, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. Lemongirl942 (talk) 12:12, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

• Comment - Licensed radio stations are generally considered notable. Is there any indication that this station is not licenced or does not exist? ~Kvng (talk) 14:48, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

::WP:SILENCE? ~Kvng (talk) 04:33, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

• Keep - Here's some coverage satisfying WP:V requirements: [http://www.cdodev.com/2011/01/18/new-radio-station-in-cdo-to-go-on-air/], [http://www.businessweekmindanao.com/2011/06/23/oro%E2%80%99s-newest-radio-station-to-go-on-air/]. The station appears to be inactive but notability is not temporary. Licensed stations are generally considered notable per WP:BCASTOUTCOMES. ~Kvng (talk) 04:33, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

::Not to burst your bubble, but in every single instance in which you've made that argument, it has failed. That's because what is being talked about there is major market radio, not "I run a station out of my garage online" or "I made this up and posted it on Wikipedia." Let me post the entirety of that statement you are quoting: "Licensed radio and TV stations are generally kept as notable if they broadcast over the air and originate at least a portion of their programming schedule in their own studios. Lower power radio stations limited to a small neighborhood, such as Part 15 operations in the United States or stations with a VF# callsign in Canada, are not inherently notable, although they may be kept if some real notability can be demonstrated." Do not cherry-pick things out of context, apply policy in a vacuum, and expect to have the high ground. Nevertheless, let me see if I get this straight: because it exists as "broadcast media" it's notable, you say? Well, WP:ENN says no. WP:GNG says no. [WP:NMEDIA says no, and so does your precious WP:BCASTOUTCOMES. In no case is existence or a license enough to merit inclusion. Good enough of an explanation? WP:V does not equal W:GNG or any other notability policy. MSJapan (talk) 06:25, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

:::So do you have evidence that this station was unlicensed or operating out of a garage or whathaveyou?

::::Where it is doesn't matter. Whether it's licensed or not doesn't matter. A local college radio station is by definition "lower power" and it hasn't demonstrated notability as required by WP:BCASTOUTCOMES. You're getting hung up on details in the policies that by themselves don't establish the requirements of the policies. MSJapan (talk) 01:41, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

:::::I think you're tangling the technical definition of low power (as in below the threshold required for a license) and a subjective definition (as in not having enough power to reach some arbitrary number of listeners and meet your personal definition of notability). WP:BCASTOUTCOMES is trying to keep things simple by equating the two and I think that's a reasonable approach. You obviously don't and that's fine, we disagree. Also be aware that college radio does not necessarily mean low power; WREK and WRAS (FM) are 100,000 watt stations, for instance. ~Kvng (talk) 14:04, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

• Delete. It may exist but since there are no reliable sources to support the subject's notability, I don't think it deserves an article. Sixth of March 23:27, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Non-notable radio station. 121.54.54.170 (talk) 01:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
• Delete as radio stations may be acceptable but there would still need to be the convincing substance for its own article and there's currently none of that. SwisterTwister talk 20:22, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

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