Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dan the Dyna-Mite

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to TNT (character) (and potentially elsewhere if editors feel the content would be useful). Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:41, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

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Over a year ago I prodded this with "the coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. Sources cited here contain only passing mentions of him in a single sentence at best (or are primary or unreliable fansites), with no critical analysis, and there is no reception section here (nor is it likely one could be written). " It has been deprodded after User:Toughpigs added a reception section, which I'll quote in its entirety: "American Comic Book Chronicles says that the TNT and Dan the Dyna-Mite series "had potential, but consistently fell flat, limited space and unimaginative writing its chief problems." While the source may be reliable, WP:SIGCOV remains a major issue - we have half a sentence of analysis, and it's not even only about him. Identical receptions section has been added to TNT (character), of whom Dan the Dyna-Mite is a sidekick of. While this doesn't bode well for notability of either, usually the main hero tends to be more notable than their sidekick, so for now I am just listing Dan here, with a recommendation of redirecting and perhaps a merger of a short plot summary to TNT's page. But if there are no improvement in TNT's character notability, if BEFORE fails (I haven't done one for TNT yet, just or Dan), well... I'll end on a positive note that there is some coverage of both in The American Superhero: Encyclopedia of Caped Crusaders in History, and if we add this, then I think TNT's article may be saved. But crucially, all sources discuss them as together, and as such, Dan has no stand-alone, seprate notability from TNT and I think deserves little but a redirect and a section there. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:01, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Comics and animation. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:01, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Merge to TNT (character) per nom. It's not clear to me why this was not tried before bringing this to AfD. I'll note that the nomination technically fails WP:SKCRIT criteria 1b. Jclemens (talk) 09:17, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
:I don't see such a criteria. 1.1 is about speedy redirects, that's different from the merge you are suggesting. I don't mind speedy redirect, but I dislike doing this as it is a form of stealth deletion. Why not discuss stuff here, occasionally I have been proved wrong and entries I thought are not rescuable have been saved. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Keep or merge with List of DC Comics characters: D in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 21:22, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Merge per all in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. Shooterwalker (talk) 01:23, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Relisting. This is a different case, there is a consensus to Merge but not agreement on the Merge target.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:20, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Merge with TNT (character). I agree that there isn't much point having a separate article about the sidekick. Toughpigs (talk) 22:59, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

:*How will his post-TNT history be mentioned there? Wouldn't it be a good idea to redirect it to List of DC Comics characters: D as a way to play it safe? Especially as he has appeared in the Stargirl: The Lost Children miniseries that is tied with The New Golden Age? I'm just asking here. --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:08, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

::*Maybe merge what's relevant to TNT there and merge everything to the D-list? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:11, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

:::*That would be a good suggestion. Perhaps for the latter suggestion, it can also be done for Wing at the W-list as he has also appeared in the Stargirl: The Lost Children miniseries that I had mentioned here. Right? --Rtkat3 (talk) 19:22, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Merge as compromise. The sources appear to cover these two characters together. Archrogue (talk) 19:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Merge to TNT (character) per the above discussion. Aoba47 (talk) 20:21, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.