Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dandy Jackson Chukwudi
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NBIO. Top 10 or 100 lists are poor evidence of notability, especially when the websites seem far from authoritative. There is also no indication that the subject's social media platform is notable in itself. SuperMarioMan (Talk) 23:33, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete - The sources are not reliable and a few, such as "Mr. Reliable", appear to be sponsored or user-generated. I searched for sources and found nothing. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Also unable to find anything that would establish notability, or evidence that the included sources have any sort of credibility. It's worth noting that this same page was speedy deleted less than 48 hours ago. โ{Canucklehead} 00:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy delete - Fails quick Google News search, so fails WP:GNG. Appears to be a youngster trying to self-promote. On that basis, it should probably be speedied. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete feels like toosoon to me. Balle010 (talk) 05:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Objecting? Shouldn't we like try and see this?, if you were to be Nigerians, you would have heard about him or something... And about deleting the page 48 hours ago, it was a premature article then. ๐๐ก๐ฎ๐ค๐ฌ๐๐ O_o ChuksJD (talk) (Contribs) 07:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
::{{reply to|ChuksJD}} There are obvious username similarities between your account and the subject of the article, are you familiar with our conflict of interest policies, specifically the ones on creating autobiographies? 192.76.8.82 (talk) 09:47, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
::* This isn't my first time of making biographies or articles. Similarity in name doesn't mean I'm the one (hope it ain't what you're thinking), I only appeal yโll check well. ๐๐ก๐ฎ๐ค๐ฌ๐๐ O_o ChuksJD (talk) (Contribs) 17:33, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
:::*{{ping|ChuksJD}} Hmm, you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:ChuksJD&oldid=977412309 declared a conflict of interest] with InstaNovella, a site purported to be created by Dandy Jackson Chukwudi, you've adopted his name, yet we are supposed to not think you're him. Got it. Here's the thing, while you've created other articles, you seem unaware about our General Notability Guideline, which says that subjects are generally considered notable if the subject has received significant (i.e. in-depth) coverage in reliable sources (major mainstream sources like newspapers and magazines) that are independent of the subject (no blogs, no interviews, no user-generated websites, etc.) You haven't demonstrated that this person (who is not you) has met this basic requirement, and pasting a link to a Google search doesn't help in any way, since all of the search results point to sites that are of no use to us: Facebook, LinkdIn, Crunchbase, blogs, etc. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
::::*Bro... That was my first article, if you check, I told Davidwr that it was a mistake. I was just new to the โsystemโ then. No one in his senses would declare that he is making an article for himself or his website knowing fully well it was against the wikipedia rules, would there? I doubt so. C'mon man! You should know better. This should be over with. If he ain't โnotableโ YET then having a stub should be better than deleting completely. Jackson is one of the enterpreneurs who has helped in creating employment in my state! (I'm not telling you this to change your mind... You've once blocked me for doing nothing anyways) I'm telling you this so that you don't have to be so strict on me cuz I'm African or cuz we have โsimilarity in namesโ, I'm telling you cuz good works should be appreciated. The only primary citation was the one I got here. Every other citation was secondary. You know this... You're an admin and a human... You should know what's right by now. (Please discard my errors: [ if any ]) ๐๐ก๐ฎ๐ค๐ฌ๐๐ O_o ChuksJD (talk) (Contribs) 18:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
::::::C'mon man! Magnolia677 (talk) 19:45, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
:::::::{{reply to|ChuksJD}} You have no connection to instanovella, but you are in a position where you can give away copyright permission for their logo [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ChuksJD&diff=982191520&oldid=prev] and have written a draft article in your sandbox [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:ChuksJD/sandbox&direction=prev&oldid=984882813]?
:::::::Per WP:TOOSOON we don't create articles on people who might gain notability one day, both due to our notability guidelines and due to WP:BLP. If the subject of the article isn't covered in high quality sources it is impossible to validate the content of the article, meaning it would be impossible to figure out what information is correct and what is made up.
:::::::The Instanovella link isn't the only one that is primary, the vangard community article was written by a user called Yellow alligator, who claims to be a blogger and gives their website as instanovella.com, so that is also primary [http://community.vanguardngr.com/m/profile?screenName=3vmi4znwpg9k7]. That leaves us with 2 mentions in list websites and an unreliable review website, hardly enough coverage to write a biography!
:::::::You're clearly enthusiastic about writing, so I'd ask that you spend a couple of hours reading the conflict of interest guidelines at WP:COI, the general notability guideline at WP:GNG, and the reliable sources guidelines at WP:RS, and bear them in mind for your future editing. 192.76.8.82 (talk) 20:19, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
::::::::{{reply to|192.76.8.82}} Brother/Sister... Yellow Alligator or whoever he is, I do not know him. I only used the article as a citation. The other websites I used for citations are Nigerian website. They (the websites) don't have any wikipage but they're still a source of information for most Nigerians and I think it makes it notable (isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong please). Chukwuma Jaatochukwu Dennis is my actual name ( for those who wanna know). I am not associated with InstaNovella. I made a bio here which the image I used was deleted also. I also told them I'm the owner of the image (I try to make/get images for my articles using PixelLab if needed), but it was still deleted. Their logo is different from mine if you check very well. And making a draft is a soon? I made drafts before moving them to the mainspace, I guess I'm off from that shackle too. ๐๐ก๐ฎ๐ค๐ฌ๐๐ O_o ChuksJD (talk) (Contribs) 21:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::{{reply to|ChuksJD}}Look, you're not in trouble and you're not going to get banned, there's no need to panic. Everyone writes articles that get deleted, and everyone will have committed a wikipedia social faux pas at some point, even jimmy wales was caught editing his own page. Creating articles as drafts is absolutely the right thing to do, but if you're finding that a lot of them are getting deleted I would suggest that you spend a bit of time reviewing the policies I suggested above.
:::::::::To answer your question "does that website show that Chukwudi is notable" the answer is no. Have a read of the general notability guideline WP:GNG. It states that "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list."
:::::::::*Significant means that the source must cover the subject in detail, e.g. a mention in a list would not be substantial, a newspaper printing a story about Chukwudi would be.
:::::::::*Reliable means that the source can be relied upon to be true. A TV news report that has gone through an entire team of journalists and editors would normally be reliable, a facebook post written by a random person would not be.
:::::::::*Independent means that the source should have as little connection as possible to the subject, a journalist writing an article on a company would be independent, an interview with it's founder would not be.
:::::::::Also note Sources is plural - we need more than 1 source to show notability.
:::::::::Any source must meet all three conditions to count towards showing notability. looking specifically at the website:
:::::::::*It is significant, since it contains a detailed account of the Subject's life.
:::::::::*It is not reliable, as it is user generated content and anyone could have written it. If his name was misspelled or a date wrong would the website owners fix it? Probably not.
:::::::::*It is not independent, as it appears to have been written by the subject himself.
:::::::::I hope this helps, as I said take a bit of time to read and understand the policies here, and you'll find you have a much better time editing. 192.76.8.82 (talk) 23:32, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::P.S. "Their logo is different from mine if you check very well"???
- Delete. I can find no secondary sources that demonstrate that this person would pass WP:GNG, I can only find user generated content and unreliable sources. 192.76.8.82 (talk) 09:47, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable businessperson and blogger.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete โ I came here after what Iโd classify as [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/987071169?diffmode=source casting aspersions] against me. This is an Autobiographical article of a non notable businessman who doesnโt satisfy WP:BIO. Celestina007 (talk) 20:17, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:21, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Requesting to closing admin I came here from :wikidata:Wikidata:Requests for deletions, where the item associated with this article was nominated for deletion. Since the item has a valid sitelink to this article, it cannot be deleted yet, but when this discussion is closed I would appreciate if I were pinged so that, if the page is deleted, the associated item can be deleted as well. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 21:21, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Idk tho but the sources of which the the Citations were made talked about Dandy Jackson Chukwudi. Idk {{u|Celestina007}} (sorry for mentioning you here); please I wanna know, is there a specific Website(s)/Book(s)/Source(s) that should be used on Wikipedia. It would be nice if I'm clarified so that I wouldn't feel like I'm been โpressedโ. I've read the WP:GNG and WP:NBIO ๐๐ก๐ฎ๐ค๐ฌ๐๐ โโโโ โข ๐ญ๐๐ฅ๐ค โข ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐๐ฌ โข ๐ฌ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ข๐ฅ 22:48, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
::@{{u|ChuksJD}}, what you may be looking for are good or reliable Nigerian sources that have a reputation for fact-checking & have editorial oversight. itโs too many things Iโm juggling both on & off-wiki if not I should have created a list of Nigerian reliable sources so editors unfamiliar with Nigerian RS could easily check it out. Few examples would be; The Punch, Nigerian tribune, The Sun, Nigerian Guardian id make a comprehensive list sometime in the future. Celestina007 (talk) 22:59, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
:::Oh. Thank you for proper details... In essence, all the others are invalid. ๐๐ก๐ฎ๐ค๐ฌ๐๐ โโโโ โข ๐ญ๐๐ฅ๐ค โข ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐๐ฌ โข ๐ฌ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ข๐ฅ 23:02, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
::::@{{u|ChuksJD}}, I just gave you archetype examples of tested & trusted Nigerian reliable sources but arenโt limited to the aforementioned Nigerian RS. When determining a reliable source, you should checkout if they have a reputation for fact checking, have editorial oversight, declare outrightly when an article is sponsored or written by a guest editor. If you read WP:RS, a portion there aids you in identifying reliable sources. I think for a more detailed explanation you should meticulously read that. Celestina007 (talk) 23:15, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
::::: Alright. Thanks for the clarification. ๐๐ก๐ฎ๐ค๐ฌ๐๐ โโโโ โข ๐ญ๐๐ฅ๐ค โข ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐๐ฌ โข ๐ฌ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ข๐ฅ 23:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TOOSOON - I don't see how this very young person has done enough yet. If somebody is legitimately notable from Nigeria or India or Argentina, and they have sources which we know are reliable, I'll support its inclusion. Bearian (talk) 21:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:GNG and a case of WP:TOOSOON.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:01, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per the arguments made above. โ The Aafฤซ (talk) 18:36, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
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