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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Chong

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Weak consensus to keep but perhaps renaming and repurposing this article to be about the event and not him should be considered. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:47, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

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Delete per WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. West Eddy (talk) 06:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Involves a student, alleged drug possession, the DEA, allegations of torture, the Attorney General, the United States Congress, and a $20million law suit. Unlikely to go away. Dru of Id (talk) 12:24, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete/Incubate for WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. HOwever, I agree with Dru that this story may have legs, in which case I'll change my vote to keep.
  • Weak Delete - [https://news.google.com.au/news/story?q=Daniel+Chong&hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft:en-au:IE-Address&rlz=1I7SUNC_enAU361&prmd=imvnsuo&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1600&bih=805&wrapid=tlif133604781684410&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=duek_-20fY82IwMDCXtrrXvrvn6nM&ei=zniiT4SYBaj-mAXUs9SKCA&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQqgIwAA Significant coverage] corroborates the notability that has been asserted; however we must remember WP:BLP1E. -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 12:42, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment Both the article creation and the AfD seem premature. Incubate/userfy may be a good compromise. --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:42, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I am inclined to say merge somewhere. I don't see this justifying a biography. It isn't really about the guy himself. He is just some unfortunate person who it seems has been mistreated. Even if the case runs and runs he will still only be famous for one thing. There probably is something worth saving here though. The story is getting lots of mainstream news coverage. It was covered in the UK, for example. Maybe it can be used in an article about the American prison system? --DanielRigal (talk) 19:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Merge & Redirect- Summarize content to a new last paragraph of Drug Enforcement Administration#Criticism, or create #Open issues or similar. Dru of Id (talk) 23:43, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

::"Criticism" sections are a sign of poor organization; in any case, the incident is too important to merely summarize. Wnt (talk) 18:04, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep (or merge) - this is a story that has gotten international coverage (e.g. [http://www.euronews.com/2012/05/04/jailed-student-forgotten-for-five-days/]) and will result in more notability after the result of the lawsuit. **** you, you ******* ****. (talk) 09:00, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

: * more info: matches Wikipedia:Bio#Basic_criteria **** you, you ******* ****. (talk) 09:17, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep until we know where this belongs. Yes, this is a WP:BLP1E. It should not be a biography, but a section in the article about the relevant prison or jail. But what prison? I've read half a dozen news reports that carefully omit any mention of where this "holding cell" is located. My wild guess is it's a private prison and some Corporate Powers That Be have lobbied the newspapers, but we'll see (well, wild). Sooner or later somebody will find us a link to the court filing and we can do what the press is too corrupt to, namely, lay this burden on the proper doorstep. Wnt (talk) 16:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC) Update: apparently this was a holding cell at the DEA San Diego field office. Problem is, we haven't created articles about the individual DEA divisions or offices, and Drug Enforcement Administration is too stuffed to include the whole incident and aftermath (though it will deserve a summary there). So I'll favor an incident-specific article name like MelanieN suggested. Wnt (talk) 23:56, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep for now. This is a nationally notorious case and is likely to remain so; if it quickly fades from attention it can be deleted later. The current article title is not appropriate, but neither is merging it into an article about a prison or jail. I would suggest moving it to something like Incarceration of Daniel Chong. This would be similar to the way we handle stories about victims of notorious crimes (Murder of Laci Peterson, Kidnapping of Jaycee Lee Dugard, etc.). The notable subject is not Chong himself, it is his incarceration. --MelanieN (talk) 17:23, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

::I have updated the article and will continue to do so. Articles from the [http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/us/daniel-chong-left-for-days-in-holding-cell.html New York Times] and the [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139333/Daniel-Chong-sues-20m-forgotten-police-cell-5-days.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Daily Mail] show the national/international reach of the story. --MelanieN (talk) 17:53, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.