Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel V. Maroney

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Fails WP:NBASIC - no significant, in-depth coverage. This person is no more notable than a CEO of some random company, who might also have similar minor mentions in several publications. ---Avatar317^(talk) 22:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

• Keep - leaders of major labor unions are generally notable, certainly far more so than a CEO of a random company. There are many more sources than those already in the article; for example, [https://www.wvencyclopedia.org/articles/1512 this entry in the West Virginia Encyclopedia]. Having died in 1999, not all relevant sources will be online, but see for example [https://wvpublic.org/april-29-1999-labor-leader-dan-maroney-dies-in-charleston/ an obituary here]. Warofdreams talk 23:30, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
• :He should be mentioned in the ATU and AFL-CIO articles, but I would say he is WP:1E being his one job, with no special stated accomplishments. Since he is dead, I don't see how this tiny article will ever be any more than the smaller-than-a-stub article that it is now, which to me means it shouldn't be an article, but a sentence or two within two larger articles. ---Avatar317^(talk) 23:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
• :: Leading a labor union is not one event, it is a prominent role held over a longer duration. While it's a more prominent role than leading a similarly sized company, using your argument, being a CEO of a major corporation is not one event in the meaning of that section. Maroney is mentioned in the ATU article, but that in no way prevents us having an article on him. As the provided sources show, there is more which can be said about him, but like many articles, I've started one off as a stub, to which other people can add. Warofdreams talk 00:26, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
• Keep. Being leader of a large labor union, and vice president of one of the largest unions, would seem to establish notability. I don't think this is what 1E is talking about—leading a labor union is not an "event" that might be better chronicled in another article. This article is hardly "smaller than a stub"—many stub articles are shorter, and this article has more details than many stubs. Being a stub is not itself an argument for deletion, so there is no argument for deletion based on the size of the article. And the fact that the subject is dead is certainly not evidence that there is no potential for expansion—if it were, all articles on historical figures ought to have been deleted as stubs as soon as they were started! But even if it's never expanded significantly, it would still be substantial enough to keep. P Aculeius (talk) 10:20, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and West Virginia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:05, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
• Keep. A check on Newspapers.com reveals lots of coverage of Maroney as a labor leader, including [https://www.newspapers.com/image/36797092/?terms=Daniel%20V.%20Maroney&match=1 his election] and [https://www.newspapers.com/image/36797764/?terms=Daniel%20V.%20Maroney&match=1 front-page coverage of his work] in the Charleston Daily Mail, as well as at least one [https://www.newspapers.com/image/296899148/?terms=Daniel%20V.%20Maroney&match=1 national AP bulletin]. These were just the sources I scraped off the surface, I would have to imagine there are more if you dig deeper. AviationFreak💬 18:50, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

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