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:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The argument that the coverage is fleeting and about the acquisition rather than about the company itself has not been successfully rebutted. As usual, anyone wishing to recover the content to write a draft can use WP:REFUND. Stifle (talk) 15:18, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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WP:NCORP requires multiple sources (at least two) of deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. That means, nothing that relies on company information or announcements or interviews, etc. None of the references in the article meet the criteria. I have been unable to find any references that meet NCORP criteria, topic fails WP:NCORP. HighKing++ 18:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

  1. [https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/daraz-continues-growth-amid-pandemic-1987889 Daily Star]
  2. [https://www.thedailystar.net/business/economy/e-commerce/news/e-commerce-can-be-10-20-times-bigger-five-years-2230241 Daily Star]
  3. [https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/trade/daraz-to-invest-tk-50b-in-bangladesh-1591110999 Financial Express]
  4. [https://thehimalayantimes.com/business/daraz-boosting-entrepreneurship-through-e-commerce The Himalayan Times]
  5. [https://www.ft.lk/business/Daraz-unveils-Grand-Christmas-Sale/34-727308 Daily FT]
  6. [https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/daraz-wins-best-brand-award-2928811 Daily Star]
  7. [https://www.ft.lk/business/vivo-in-collaboration-with-Daraz-set-to-offer-exciting-gifts-this-festive-season/34-727344 Daily FT]
  8. [https://profit.pakistantoday.com.pk/2021/12/12/how-daraz-used-cricket-as-a-customer-acquisition-strategy/ Profit Pakistan Today]
  9. [https://www.nepalitimes.com/business/daraz-new-year-end-sale/ Nepali Times]
  10. [https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/trade/daraz-warned-over-1111-campaign-1639633729 Financial Express]
  11. [https://archive.dhakatribune.com/business/2018/05/08/alibaba-buys-daraz-rocket-internet Dhaka Tribune]
  12. [https://www.usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2021-11-25/pakistan-e-commerce-platform-daraz-aims-to-beef-up-as-amazon-eyes-market US News]
  13. [https://www.thedailystar.net/toggle/news/its-official-alibaba-finally-enters-the-food-delivery-bangladesh-2054793 Daily Star]
  14. [https://www.dhakatribune.com/business/2021/11/13/daraz-breaks-record-serving-14-million-e-commerce-shoppers Dhaka Tribune]

Mommmyy (talk) 13:51, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Response Please read WP:NCORP. Not a single one of those references meet the NCORP criteria for establishing notability. Please especially pay attention to the WP:ORGIND section and "Independent Content". HighKing++ 20:30, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment {{ping|HighKing}} I have found a multitude of sources online and am ready to expand the article, but an interesting thing I've noticed is that this article seems to be about Daraz Group, the company, whereas a lot of sources are about their e-commerce platform. How should one go about expanding the article (changing the focus entirely, renaming this one and making a separate article about the platform, etc)? RealKnockout (talk) 16:47, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

::Hi {{u|RealKnockOut}}, you've identified the real issue here - while the topic company doesn't appear to meet the notability criteria, there's a good chance that the platform has enough in-depth sources to meet the criteria for notability. I suggest you change and rename the current article (or perhaps request that it is moved to Drafts to allow you time to work on it). I would support this action and I'm sure an admin would too. HighKing++ 20:30, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment It's not often on this AfD forum and somewhat refreshing to see that the nominator and the contributing editor seem to have resolved things themselves here. It appears there is no need any further for me to vote 'Keep' or 'Delete' the article here? Ngrewal1 (talk) 16:13, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Would like some additional input, the comments are not strong in either direction
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:24, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Draftify to allow {{u|RealKnockout}} to work on shifting the focus of the article to the platform instead of the company. I found some sources that don't entirely rely on Daraz or their personnel for info: [https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/pakistan-e-commerce-platform-daraz-aims-beef-up-amazon-eyes-market-2021-11-25/], [https://retailasia.net/co-written-partner-e-commerce/event-news-more-news/daraz-leads-in-e-commerce-prioritising-customers-and-sellers-needs], [https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/314282-alibaba-acquires-daraz-in-estimated-200-million-deal]. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 09:07, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep - I think [https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/daraz-continues-growth-amid-pandemic-1987889], [https://www.thedailystar.net/business/economy/e-commerce/news/e-commerce-can-be-10-20-times-bigger-five-years-2230241], [https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/daraz-wins-best-brand-award-2928811], [https://www.usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2021-11-25/pakistan-e-commerce-platform-daraz-aims-to-beef-up-as-amazon-eyes-market], and [https://www.thedailystar.net/toggle/news/its-official-alibaba-finally-enters-the-food-delivery-bangladesh-2054793] are independent as they are news. Troyol (talk) 11:46, 20 January 2022 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 10:08, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Response You need to read WP:ORGIND and particularly the part about "Independent Content". It's more than just a corporate separation between the topic company and the publisher. And "news" reports about companies tend to rely entirely on information provided by the company or their execs, or regurgitate a press release or announcement - which describes the links you've posted - and that type of "news" report fails WP:ORGIND and therefore WP:NCORP. HighKing++ 14:23, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:58, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.