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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darren Redick

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

=[[Darren Redick]]=

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There seems to be some notability to this guy, but it's not enough for me to get past the second section. He worked in several major radio markets (it seems to be his only claims to notability), but very few radio DJs, even in huge markets, end up getting articles just for working there. Additionally, [http://news.google.com/news/search?q=darren+redick a Google News search] for his name turns up with nothing but basketball. If the article is kept, this article definitely needs to be copywritten for style and capitalization. 7OA chat 02:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment It also appears there are no reliable sources on the article. There is one reference, but it is a commercial site for the radio station at which Darren works. 7OA chat 02:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment I got my information from Darren's bio on the website as well as some directly from himself..he is a reliable source of himself don't you think? I think he is notable as he is probably one of the world's only (if not THE only) Ballet Dancer turned Rock DJ. Nicky Horne from the same station has an article on himself.. so why shouldn't Darren? He has had a varied career and his Dance career was very accomplished. when I searched on Google News I found mention of him in the New York Times (1990) relating to a Ballet he was in. I will be looking for more solid resources and information, but I do feel this is a valid entry. He is an interesting Radio Personality. Thank you.. AlliKissAlliKiss (talk) 10:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment I have been working more on the article today, I have found more sources, from Google and have added links to the pages. I have also added wiki links to make the article more interesting. I do feel Darren is a notable person and therefore warrants a wiki page. Thank You, again, AlliKiss AlliKissAlliKiss (talk) 11:59, 19 April 2010 (UTCe

:Reply to both comments Just because you feel he is notable doesn't mean Wikipedia policies find him to be as such. Sources saying that he was in a certain dance school may be reliable, but we need reliable sources giving us definitive information stating that he did something notable, like that he changed dance or radio somehow. Just being a dancer turned DJ is not notable. Slowly, as I dig deeper into the article and its information, I'm beginning to find I should have speedied it. 7OA chat 00:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment Well I have found alot of useless information on Wikipedia.. I feel my article is just as warranted as one on nicky Horne or any other radio or Tv personality. I mean you have articles on reality tv show ppl for God's sake! they havent changed television.. except maybe brought it to gutter level. Darren is an interesting radio personality, he has also danced with some of the greats of the Dance world, like Rudolf Nuryev. My sources are reliable as Darren himself has told me all about his career etc.. How much more reliable can one get? I will continue to tweak the article and if you delete it I will re submit. I am passionate about this. This article is valid and warranted. I shall be looking at some of the other articles on wiki to cite them as banal or unnecessary..shouldn't take me long to find some. Thank YOU. AlliKiss (talk) 11:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete - could not find independent reliable sources to establish notability.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 01:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --Darkwind (talk) 00:09, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. -- --Darkwind (talk) 05:18, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete. AlliKiss, you've missed the point of reliable sources, at least as far as establishing notability goes. As there are 5 billion people on the planet, Wikipedia does not have the resources to maintain pages from every single person who wants a page written about them, therefore we need some way of deciding who is notable. Since anyone can create a Facebook page about themselves, appear in a directory of school alumni or tell their friends about themselves, none of those things can count towards notability. We normally looks for things written about them in things like newspapers or web pages with some sort of editorial control. Were any articles written about him as a radio presenter (preferably whole articles, not just a mention in an article about something else)? That might count towards notability. Oh, and if you are thinking of re-submitting a deleted page, I'd read WP:CSD#G4 first. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 06:56, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

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