Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Demitarianism

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It took a somewhat deeper analysis than usual, however I'm convinced that the topic does not cross the threshold of notability. The term's use is limited to a "declaration" produced at some 2009 workshop in France and a report produced in 2013 by one of its participants (and author of the term). Barring a single article in the Guardian, neither the report nor the idea has been picked up by the mainstream science or media.

Monthly Google Trends reports shows single-digit searches for Demitarian, typically 0–7 searches per month worldwide[https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Demitarian].

The ar-wiki version is a word-for-word translation of the first two paragraphs of the en-wiki article. The es-wiki article is practically unsourced (none of the five references mentions demitarianism).

All in all, the article appears created as some sort of promotion/advocacy while the topic appears to fall short of WP:GNG. — kashmīrī ^TALK 20:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. — kashmīrī ^TALK 20:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• Keep and rename Demitarian diet, passes WP:GNG based on significant coverge in independent reliable sources.{{cite news |url=https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/feb/18/halve-meat-consumption-scientists |publisher=The Guardian |title=Halve meat consumption, scientists urge rich world |author=Fiona Harvey |date=18 February 2013 |access-date=24 May 2022}}{{cite journal |url=https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Agroecosystem_Diversity/kihyDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA391&printsec=frontcover |pages=391-413 |first1=Gilles |last1=Billen |first2=Luis |last2=Lassaletta |first3=Josette |last3=Garnier |first4=Julia |last4=Le Noë |first5=Eduardo |last5=Aguilera |first6=Alberto |last6=Sanz-Cobeña |title=Chapter 25 - Opening to Distant Markets or Local Reconnection of Agro-Food Systems? Environmental Consequences at Regional and Global Scales |journal=Agroecosystem Diversity |year=2018 |publisher=Elsevier Science |isbn=9780128110515 |doi=10.1016/B978-0-12-811050-8.00025-X}} SailingInABathTub (talk) 21:11, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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:{{Comment}} Sorry but I'm not seeing any "significant coverage". The Guardian piece is already linked in the article as is pretty much the only mention in the popular media that I was able to find in English. The second source, i.e., the chapter of a niche book, indeed discusses the idea of the demitarian diet, however it's not an {{tpq|independent source}}, because the chapter's lead author Gilles Billen sits on the management committee of NinE[http://www.nine-esf.org/node/22/index.html], the organisation behind the Barsac Declaration, and also is a signatory of the Declaration. So, it still looks like a far cry from WP:GNG. — kashmīrī ^TALK 22:28, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

:: Good point. I found other examples of significant coverage in academic literature, but as you point out, at least one of the authors in each case (Erisman, Sutton, & Billen) are involved with NinE, and so not independent. The Guardian article appears to be the only independent reliable coverage. SailingInABathTub (talk) 23:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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• Comment - There's an overlap with other Wikipedia articles that address meat reduction. In particular, there's a merge being proposed between Flexitarianism and Semi-vegetarianism. Assuming that we decide that an article specifically on Demitarianism is not justified, it seems to me that a merge/redirect to one of these articles would be in order. — Charles Stewart (talk) 12:22, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
• Merge, with Flexitarianism#Definitions, per User:Chalst. This article could be fairly easily reduced to a few sentences based on the only reliable secondary source, and then merged into the broader topic. SailingInABathTub (talk) 13:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
• Merge with Flexitarianism#Definitions, following {{u|SailingInABathTub}}'s support of my suggestion. — Charles Stewart (talk) 02:36, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
• Reducing meat consumption for environmental reasons is a topic we should, and probably do already, cover, but not under this name. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:34, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
• Merge with Flexitarianism#Definitions per above.4meter4 (talk) 19:41, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

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