Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Demographic-economic paradox

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OR article. Title invented by Wikipedia. Not a single source used in the article uses the term "Demographic-economic paradox". Yes, there is a negative correlation between income and fertility/population growth - so what? There are all kinds of correlations between various variables. VolunteerMarek 13:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 19:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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• Keep My initial lean was to delete, as a Google search of the term turned up many references, but all that I reviewed (with one potential exception) traced to the Wikipedia article:

1. WP itself
2. [http://www.thescienceforum.com/business-economics/21199-demographic-economic-paradox.html] A discussion forum linking to the WP article
3. [http://matthewbenson.wordpress.com/2011/08/04/curious-about-birth-rates-and-the-demographic-economic-paradox/] A blog entry, linking to the WP article
4. [http://paradoxes.sciencedaily.com/q/167/7631/How-is-the-Demographic-economic-paradox-classified] a content-free entry in a list of paradoxes, probably scraped from WP
5. [http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/topic/Demographic-economic-paradox] a content-free entry in a newspaper, probably scrapped from WP
6. [http://www.rationalchoicetheory.net/2011/08/demographic-economic-paradox.html] A blog entry, scraped from the WP article
7. [http://www.dancarlin.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10907] A discussion forum linking to the WP article
8. [http://www.hoover.org/publications/policy-review/article/5437] Use of the term without a WP reference, although written after the WP article, noso not clear that it is independent.

However, a Google search of books, while turning up some Wikipedia compilations, also turned up some independent sources, pre-dating the WP article.

• 1981 Book—{{cite book|author1=Peter Kriedte|author2=Hans Medick|author3=Jürgen Schlumbohm|title=Industrialization Before Industrialization: Rural Industry in the Genesis of Capitalism|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=0Es7AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA57|accessdate=30 June 2012|year=1981|publisher=CUP Archive|isbn=978-0-521-28228-4|pages=57–}}
• 2006 Book—{{cite book|author=Paul Ankomah|title=Time Shift, Leisure and Tourism: Impacts of Time Allocation on Successful Products and Services|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=tXtgUXCVuKsC&pg=PA306|accessdate=30 June 2012|year=2006|publisher=Erich Schmidt Verlag GmbH &|isbn=978-3-503-09746-3|pages=306–}}
• 1995 Book—{{cite book|author=Herwig Birg|title=World population projections for the 21st century: theoretical interpretations and quanitative siumulations|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=5x5xG4OrbYEC|accessdate=30 June 2012|year=1995|publisher=Campus Verlag|isbn=978-3-593-35432-3}}

It appears the phrase was coined by Herwig Birg, perhaps in 1995. However, the original phrase was "Demo-economic paradox". A [https://www.google.com/search?q=Demographic-economic+paradox&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&prmdo=1&sclient=psy-ab&q=Demo-economic+paradox&oq=Demo-economic+paradox&gs_l=serp.12...7368.8185.7.9570.5.5.0.0.0.0.83.404.5.5.0...0.0.8sSbcnofZdk&pbx=1&prmdo=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f02dca5de27feb08&biw=1333&bih=872 search] in Google for that term yields hits other than the WP article.

It appears the article needs better referencing, not deletion.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:57, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

• Keep - AfD is not for clean-up, and this article appears to document a valid concept. Bearian (talk) 23:26, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
• Keep - The above book citations disprove the accusation of original research invented by Wikipedia. The concept was popularized by Mark Steyn's 2006 book America Alone and also show up in [http://www.uni-marburg.de/fb03/ivk/mjr/pdfs/2006/articles/blume2006.pdf]--Yannick (talk) 22:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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