Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dennis Baron

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Article doesn't meet WP:PROF I dream of horses (T) @ 21:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

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• Arxiloxos, sorry about the deletion thing! Total accident on my part, I'm new to this and didn't realize what I was doing. Anyhow, I've done some extra research and provided LOTS of sources that should prove that Baron is a prominent linguist. I've provided links to articles (NY Times, CNN, LA Times) that quote him as an expert source, links to TV and Radio interviews, and links to his own articles. I've also provided other sources for bio information and links to his Amicus brief. Of course, it's still a work in progress but I don't understand why the person lobbying for deletion would say that Baron isn't qualified for an entry. In fact, I actually found out that the the wikipedia article for the pronoun "She" already quoted him!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Saturnalia9 (talk • contribs) 21:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

• I've got to go with keep on this article. This is a full professor at a major university who has written a substantial number of books, many of which appear moderately highly-cited, and to have a biography on him seems to me to add to the sum of human knowledge. I think if WP:PROF means we should exclude him, then it's WP:PROF that's wrong. These guidelines should be used to eliminate spam, marketing material, and fancruft, not the biographies of genuine scholars.

  I agree that the article requires a great deal more reliable sources and a great deal fewer summaries of his books; if the books are notable, write articles about them. This article should focus on Baron's biography rather than his writings. But I feel this is best solved by ordinary editing rather than the articles for deletion process, and I would respectfully ask the nominator to reconsider whether it is really necessary to invoke AfD here.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 22:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:31, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
• Keep per User:S Marshall. Article needs revision, and the creator of this article is not doing the discussion any favors by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dennis_Baron&diff=309666409&oldid=309666264 unilaterally deleting the AfD notice from the article] (I've put it back) but quick Googling suggests that this guy is a well-recognized linguist who has written a bunch of notable stuff.--Arxiloxos (talk) 23:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
• Keep Plenty of gnews hits, tellingly, even with a common seeming name, they seem to be mainly relevant to him. Gscholar cites : 169, 138, 38 ... , 560 gbooks hits, meets wp:prof under several criteria.John Z (talk) 00:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
• Keep For one thing, no reason for deletion was given. A person who has written four books published by Yale Univ. Press and Oxford University Press would be notable from that alone as an author--there are undoubrtedly reviews, and they should be added, , which would be formal sources for proving the notability as an author. A full professor at the U. Illinois is reasonably certain to be notable, for that is a very distinguished research university of the highest level, and I trust them to know whom to appoint at that level. Notability is determined by one's peers, and they have determined it better than we can. DGG ( talk ) 04:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
• Comment. I found four journal reviews each of two of his books, and one review of another book, by searching for the book title at crossref.org. But I couldn't find reviews of the other books. Usually this is more effective at digging up reviews of academic books, so I am a little surprised by the relatively low number of reviews I could find. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
• Keep for reasons above, also healthy hits and cites. Xxanthippe (talk) 07:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC).
• I would like to withdraw nomination per WP:SNOWBALL. --I dream of horses (T) @ 18:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

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