Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derrick E Grayson

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The result was delete. L Faraone 00:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

=[[Derrick E Grayson]]=

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Unambiguously promotional article about a man running for public office. Speedy G11 tag was removed by a third party. - Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 15:44, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Not a promotional article. This article serves the public interest as this individual is a high profile public figure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedom4Future (talk • contribs) 15:49, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

:#What is your evidence that this candidate is indeed high-profile?

:#"Serving the public interest" is not part of Wikipedia's mission and, in fact, the way you're doing it fits our definition of "promotional".

:: --- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 16:10, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:55, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:55, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Please cite the Wiki guidelines on High Profile, media interest, and other reasons you believe warrant deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedom4Future (talk • contribs) 16:51, 27 May 2013‎ (UTC)

::Check out any and all of these: WP:GNG, WP:POLITICIAN, and WP:BLP1E. In particular, WP:POLITICIAN states that "Just being…an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability." —C.Fred (talk) 16:59, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

::Also, since the editor who created the article has admitted that he's the subject, WP:Autobiography comes into play. —C.Fred (talk) 17:12, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Delete due to failure to provide multiple reliable sources that show Grayson is notable beyond his intent to run for Senate. The general rule is that running for office does not make one inherently notable: the subject should either be notable before the run for office, or they should receive so much coverage that they meet WP:GNG as a result of the coverage of their run. There is only one secondary source, a Creative Loafing article, that mentions Grayson's Senate run. There are no secondary sources that demonstrate his notability outside of his candidacy. (The Washington Post article cited does not mention Grayson at all; it mentions attacks on another politician but makes no mention of Grayson's role in that.) —C.Fred (talk) 16:55, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

See also International News organization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj5wMa9kcsc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedom4Future (talk • contribs) 17:05, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

::Yes RT (formerly Russia Today) did about a five-minute interview with Grayson. It identified him as a "Ron Paul supporter," and the interview was about Paul, not Grayson. —C.Fred (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Delete - fails WP:POLITICIAN specifically and WP:GNG more broadly. One interview with the subject about someone else is coverage by the subject of someone else, not coverage of the subject, which is what we require. Stalwart111 00:13, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

::Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things such as fame, importance, or popularity. This individual is obviously notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedom4Future (talk • contribs) 09:14, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Delete. Does not meet WP:POLITICIAN. Tiller54 (talk) 09:53, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Do Not Delete - the general rule is to redirect to an appropriate page covering the election or political office sought in lieu of deletion. Relevant material from the biographical article can be merged into the election or political office page if appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedom4Future (talk • contribs) 12:46, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

::There is no "relevant material". The personal information is not relevant to the election and it is entirely unsourced. eg: "Derrick E. Grayson developed an interest in music at an early age,". Wow. Tiller54 (talk) 20:08, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Delete, it is far too soon for the subject to have a stand alone article on Wikipedia. The subject has not received significant coverage from multiple non-primary reliable sources for the subject to be considered notable as defined by WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO, let alone POLITICIAN as others above have pointed out. Even if the subject has stated that he is running in 2014, WP:CRYSTALBALL also comes into play, and the subject of this AfD might just become a redirect to the United States Senate election in Georgia, 2014#Candidates.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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