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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Devin Brennan-McBride

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep Kris Joseph, delete others. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 03:09, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

=[[Devin Brennan-McBride]]=

:{{la|Devin Brennan-McBride}} – (View AfDView log)

:({{Find sources|Devin Brennan-McBride}})

I am nominating this article, as well as the others listed here, for some/all of the following reasons (which apply to all of these articles): None of them pass notability criteria for college athletes; the American Basketball Association (in its present incarnation) is not a notable league to be playing in if it's the basis for the article's notability; these were all created en masse by a rabid Syracuse basketball fan (User:GoCuse44) thinking that playing for Syracuse = inherent notability (it certainly doesn't); every one of these articles' references are only either Syracuse University school newspapers/blogs or routine coverage; last but not least, they're all abandoned articles (i.e. GoCuse44 created them in a spree, and no significant content has been added to them in literally 2+ years...which also might signify all of these being unwatched BLPs, opening a whole new can of worms). Jrcla2 (talk) 19:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

:{{la|Kris Joseph}}

:{{la|James Thues}}

:{{la|Louie McCroskey}}

:{{la|Jake Presutti}}

:{{la|Josh Wright}}

:{{la|DayShawn Wright}}

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. -- Jrcla2 (talk) 19:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- Jrcla2 (talk) 19:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Keep Kris Joseph, Delete others - Kris Joseph probably meets notability standards based on news coverage. He was a preseason All-American in many publications last year, was on the preseason Wooden/Naismith watch lists and is returning for his senior year where he will be a high-profile player on a perennial top 25 team. The others are scrubs and should be deleted. Rikster2 (talk) 19:45, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Delete All: per nom. As far as Joseph is concerned, being on a preseason watch list does not confer presumptive notability, nor does the premise that he might be prominent next season; were he, for instance, to suffer a career-ending injury between now and October, he wouldn't be a high-profile anything, the very reason WP:CRYSTAL exists.  Ravenswing  21:34, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment Disagree on Joseph - he's one of Syracuse's top players and was on one of the All-Big East teams last year. There is media coverage that comes with this, such as [http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20101016/SPORTS03/310169934/-1/sports this], [http://www.13wham.com/content/sports/local/story/Joseph-and-Triche-on-Wooden-Award-Preseason-List/mQObGDGd40GbZK46AKH2lg.cspx this], [http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6028031 this], [http://www.canadaeast.com/sports/article/987710 this], [http://www.basketball.ca/en/hm/inside.php?sid=1&id=4854 this], and [http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2010-03-20/syracuses-joseph-gets-rare-start-dream-matchup-against-big-bro this]. And that's without linking game reports, where Joseph features prominently because he's a top player on a top team. Seriously, he's one of the best returning players in arguably the best conference. He gets plenty of media coverage and meets notability that way. After being involved in AfD debates for the likes of Leslie McDonald, JaMychal Green and Jon Leuer (all of whom passed), I think Joseph is at least in the same vein given his and Syracuse's high profile in the media. I bring up next season because it always seems silly to me to delete a relatively fleshed-out article only for the subject to blow up a few months later. But even looking at today, he meets notability on the basis of significant media coverage. Rikster2 (talk) 01:41, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep Joseph He is a legit NBA prospect. I could find plenty of media coverage on Joseph the player. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 14:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.