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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deziree Ramirez

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If there is a case of impersonation, we must take it seriously. In this case, it seems the evidence is not entirely clear. A remaining possibility is that both pseudonyms refer to the same person. However, I took into account that Francesca Felucci had earlier been deleted as non-notable. It seems that greater harm will be potentially be done by keeping the article than by deleting it, and it seemed that relisting would not likely uncover new information. There are various routes for undeletion requests if someone can come up with convincing evidence that she exists and is notable, and what the connection between the two personas may be. However, it seems that even then, the article will need extensive work to remove incorrect claims, and therefore it may, in that event, be best to start afresh. Samsara (FA • FP) 18:49, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

=[[Deziree Ramirez]]=

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Person Deziree Ramirez is a hoax and does not exist. Person(s) is also an impostor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nothinglastsforever (talk • contribs) 14:08, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Every sourced link on this page concerning Deziree Ramirez is using the pictures of european model NSFW [http://francesca-felucci.com Francesca Felucci]. 14:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

User has created a fake [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4961395/ IMDB] page for added notability.

Deziree Ramirez never appeared in playboy. Searchable database [http://www.playboywiki.com here]:

Links for proof that Deziree Ramirez does not exist [ALL NSFW] and is impersonating [http://francesca-felucci.com Francesca Felucci]:

  • [http://francesca-felucci.com Official Site]
  • [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1922775/ IMDB]
  • [http://freeones.com/html/f_links/Francesca_Felucci/ Freeones]
  • [https://twitter.com/FrancescaFelucc Twitter]
  • [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesca_Felucci Italian Wikipedia]
  • [http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=FrancescaFelluci/gender=f IAFD]
  • [http://www.adultfilmdatabase.com/actor/francesca-felucci-35458/ AFDB]
  • [http://www.egafd.com/actresses/details.php/id/f00125/ EGAFD]
  • [http://www.facebook.com/francescafelucci Facebook]
  • [http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Francesca_Felucci 1]

Creator of this article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Texasknowsbest Texasknowsbest] and their history is associated with this page alone and subsquent related and created links to this page.

Furthermore the Real Housewives of Dallas (another deletion possiblity) is not in production according to Bravo and they've never heard of Deziree Ramirez http://www.gossipcop.com/real-housewives-of-dallas-cast-deziree-ramirez/ http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/03/andy-cohen-real-housewives-of-dallas-is-not-happening.html Nothinglastsforever (talk) 13:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:21, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:21, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

  • Comment. If Deziree Ramirez is a hoax, she is an exceptionally elaborate hoax with [http://www.xxlmag.com/eye-candy/2012/04/deziree-ramirez-is-the-16-million-woman/ XXL magazine] and [http://www.dallasnews.com/entertainment/television/20120316-real-housewives-of-dallas-rumors-denials-and-facts.ece The Dallas Morning News] getting taken in. The references in the article are mostly low quality, but they check out. I'm not convinced this person is notable, but I'm also not convinced the article is an outright hoax. • Gene93k (talk) 18:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

:*Comment. I agree! It is an incredibly elaborate hoax to create a person and use said person to give credence to the existence of a purported; upcoming reality-show. However you have not acknowledged that in the XXL Magazine article Deziree Ramirez is using pictures of Francesca Felucci. There is also this tweet from the head of Bravo addressing the matter of whether the series would be made: https://twitter.com/BravoAndy/status/180307275909570561. I've also stated this person has absolutely no recorded evidence for ever appearing in playboy. It doesn't exist — because he/she's using another model's photos and identity. Will you be convinced by these doctored photos posted to Deziree's mobypicture twitter account? [http://www.mobypicture.com/user/Undezcovered/view/13189642 Moby 1] [http://www.mobypicture.com/user/Undezcovered/view/12573141 Moby 2] [http://www.mobypicture.com/user/Undezcovered/view/12672902 Moby 3] They are obvious forgeries and if you attempt to find them via a google reverse image search; you'll find the original, undoctored image of Francesca Felucci [http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/59/31896c7275e443e0b57455d1c2e60cd4/l.jpg HERE] which matches [http://www.mobypicture.com/user/Undezcovered/view/13189642 Moby 1]. Here's another original [http://cdn.fotocommunity.com/Erotik/Outdoor/Sandgirl-a17957604.jpg HERE] which matches [http://www.mobypicture.com/user/Undezcovered/view/12573141 Moby 2] & [http://www.mobypicture.com/user/Undezcovered/view/12672902 Moby 3]. He/She also tried to watermark Francesca's photos with the Maxim (magazine) logo [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ArTG-YFCAAMWitW.jpg:large HERE]. Nothinglastsforever (talk) 19:40, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KTC (talk) 00:21, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

  • WP:BLP-nuke into a glowing glassy crater and then pave over just to be on the safe side. There is too much evidence for a faked identity to give this any benefit of the doubt. Mangoe (talk) 13:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete – I love a mystery and this was fun but now I have to cut Ms. Ramirez loose. This is just media jamming: for fun or profit, who knows? Doesn't matter: it should be deleted before it gets mirrored on a hundred sites. SteveStrummer (talk) 01:36, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.