Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dietrich Unkrodt

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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:14, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

=[[:Dietrich Unkrodt]]=

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Cannot find any substantial coverage. Current sources are either unreliable (discogs) or a funeral home (I think?). German WP article is almost identical, as this one is a translation. – Aza24 (talk) 19:04, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, and Germany. Aza24 (talk) 19:04, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

:: The person composed and played unusual recordings for an unusual instrument, and taught, all this before the time of web coverage, and most of his career in East Germany.

::* [https://music.metason.net/artistinfo?name=Dietrich%20Unkrodt metason.net]

::* [https://www.verlag-neue-musik.de/verlag/product_info.php?info=p444_Tuba-1.html Verlag Neue Musik]

::* [https://www.hanneszerbejazzorchester.de/english-info/ Zerbe orchestra]

::* [https://jazzpages.de/hannes-zerbe-wird-am-17-12-2021-80-jahre-alt/ jazz]

::* [https://www.rbb-online.de/unternehmen/presse/presseinformationen/programm/2021/04/20210421-der-rundfunk-berlin-brandenburg--rbb--und-das-land-berlin-verlei.html rbb]

::* [https://www.jazzzeitung.de/cms/2021/04/news-jazzpreis-berlin-2021-an-hannes-zerbe/ jazzzeitung.de]

::* [https://www.dresdnerphilharmonie.de/en/dresdner-philharmonie/biographies/prof-joerg-wachsmuth/ student] (and there are more)

:: too tired to look for more --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

:::These are all just passing mentions though... Aza24 (talk) 23:58, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

:::: As I said, his main career was before the internet, and in East Germany. He made recordings that were mentioned decades later, which tells me to keep. [https://portal.dnb.de/opac/simpleSearch?reset=true&cqlMode=true&query=intRef%3D134544404&selectedCategory=any]. Perhaps SusunW can dig up newspapers? Anyway, I'll have no time for him today, but promise to look tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Keep, noting I was called here by {{u|Gerda Arendt}}. As she said likely many off-line sources. East German, allowed to tour the US and internationally, was really unusual. [https://www.newspapers.com/article/york-daily-record-clay-marianne-perfre/126640119/],[https://www.newspapers.com/article/york-daily-record-clay-marianne-perfec/126640195/],[https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-baltimore-sun-east-west-berlin-to-m/56519354/], [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-daily-oklahoman-treas-elizabeth-ar/126641061/ VP] of the Tuba International Brotherhood Association, the inaugural [https://books.google.com.mx/books?id=J4UJAQAAMAAJ&q=Dietrich+Unkrodt&dq=Dietrich+Unkrodt&hl=es-419&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-7I_U9cz_AhUrPkQIHaP2C4MQ6AF6BAgGEAI VP]. There are also bits [https://archive.org/details/isbn_9783150105283/page/571/mode/1up?q=%22Dietrich+Unkrodt+%22], [https://archive.org/details/sim_jazz-forum_1981_5/page/15/mode/1up?q=%22Dietrich+Unkrodt+%22],[https://archive.org/details/jazzlexikonbd2mz0002kunz/page/1535/mode/1up?q=%22Dietrich+Unkrodt+%22],[https://archive.org/details/sim_jazz-forum_1983_1/page/14/mode/1up?q=%22Dietrich+Unkrodt+%22], and then there is this [https://archive.org/details/tubasourcebook0000unse/page/131/mode/1up?q=%22Dietrich+Unkrodt+%22] "Concerto for Tuba and Orchestra" by Joachim Gunner (p 131, 133), "Sieben Miniaturen für Vier Tuben" by Gunter Kochan (p 226); and Fanfare for a Friend by John Stevens (p 254) were all written for Unkrodt. Book also includes people he taught. Would need input from someone who has access to a library (I don't, but possibly the RX, where I've [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request#Possibly_needs_interlibrary_loan_or_Ebsco_access%3F_Article_at_AfD%2C_but_I_think_these_will_verify_notability ordered].) to see the bios here: [https://books.google.com.mx/books?id=pH8JAQAAMAAJ&q=Dietrich+Unkrodt&dq=Dietrich+Unkrodt&hl=es-419&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-7I_U9cz_AhUrPkQIHaP2C4MQ6AF6BAgCEAI "Dietrich] Unkrodt studied at the Berlin Conservatory from 1952-1955 and was a member of Landeskapelle" (p 28), [https://books.google.com.mx/books?id=LgMWAAAAIAAJ&q=Dietrich+Unkrodt&dq=Dietrich+Unkrodt&hl=es-419&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-7I_U9cz_AhUrPkQIHaP2C4MQ6AF6BAgEEAI "Dietrich] Unkrodt of the tuba jury displayed musical and instrumental vision which went far beyond the standard limits…He showed an adventurousness and determination to extend the limits of the tuba…" p 44. Clearly notable from other musicians' perspectives from what I can see. Has a bio [https://books.google.com.mx/books?id=mlugG4vfmw8C&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PA487&dq=Dietrich%20Unkrodt&pg=PA487#v=onepage&q=Dietrich%20Unkrodt&f=false Kürschners] Musiker-Handbuch, p. 487. SusunW (talk) 13:45, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
Keep, much improved, clearly shows notability now. —Kusma (talk) 16:13, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
Keep as there is multiple reliable sources coverage such as a number of books identified in this discussion so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:02, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

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