Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dil Wali Gali Mein
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Draftify__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 21:26, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
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Sources are all unreliable. Most are un-bylined churnalism and the few that do have bylines are unreliable (ex., Fuchia Magazine). Attempted redirect until the show is released and there are some bylined reviews but redirect was challenged by creator so here we are. CNMall41 (talk) 21:12, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
* Keep : The article for Dil Wali Gali Mein have to be kept as it meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for television series. The show has garnered significant attention from multiple reliable media outlets, including Samaa TV, PINKVILLA a Indian entertainment magazine, The Express Tribune a Pakistani leading and major news network, Dunya News, Daily Times (Pakistan), Fuchsia Magazine, a Pakistani entertainment magazine, Minute Mirror, Aaj News, Jang (newspaper), which have covered the television series and highlighted its potential in the context of Ramadan television programming. Furthermore, the involvement of well-known professionals, such as director Kashif Nisar, producer Momina Duraid, and popular actors Sajal Aly, a prominent Pakistani actress who worked on domestic and International level and Hamza Sohail also, adds to the series' notability. Ramadan dramas have a long-standing cultural tradition in Pakistan, and Dil Wali Gali Mein is positioned to be part of this tradition. Given the expected wide reach during Ramadan, the show has the potential to contribute to cultural discourse, making it a noteworthy subject for documentation. Given the media coverage, industry involvement, and the release in the Ramadan month as Ramadan Programming, the article qualifies for retention based on Wikipedia's criteria for notability in the entertainment sector. The article has needs to be kept. Thanks PB987 (talk) 21:26, 8 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked sock. BilletsMauves€500 08:38, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Pakistan. CNMall41 (talk) 21:13, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
::As noted when this was redirected and in the deletion rationale, sources are churnalism and unbylined. I counted a total of four bylined references out of the present WP:REFBOMB, one of which is unreliable and the others are just announcements and likely churnalism based on HUM TV's promotion. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify: currently fails WP:SIGCOV, draftify for now. Vestrian24Bio 13:34, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Vestrian24Bio Thank you for your suggestion regarding the article "Dil Wali Gali", but I believe it meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines and should remain in mainspace rather than being moved to Draft. The topic has received significant coverage in reliable and independent sources, which fulfills Wikipedia’s General Notability Guideline (WP:GNG). If multiple sources discuss the subject in depth, it qualifies to stay in the main encyclopedia rather than being sent to Draft. The article is supported by reputable media sources, newspapers, or journals, demonstrating its wider recognition. If any improvements are needed, they can be made directly within mainspace rather than requiring a move. Furthermore, similar topics already exist in Wikipedia’s mainspace, which establishes a precedent for keeping this article as well. Since the article is neutral, well-developed, and not promotional, there is no strong reason for it to be moved. Any concerns about citations or formatting can be addressed through improvements instead of removal from mainspace. Per Wikipedia’s policies (WP:GNG, WP:V, WP:N), this article has demonstrated sufficient notability and does not require incubation in Draft space. Instead of moving it, any necessary improvements should be made within mainspace. I look forward to further discussion on this matter. PB987 (talk) 16:53, 9 February 2025 (UTC)Blocked sock. BilletsMauves€500 08:41, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
:::Which sources are bylined that constitute significant coverage? At this point, your argument is a fallacy by assertion. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:32, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: two bylined although evidently formulaic articles (Lens, Express Tribune) on the page. Coverage about production, notable cast and crew. If judged insufficient please consider a redirect to the director Kashif Nisar#Television. Add this: https://www.pinkvilla.com/tv/news/5-upcoming-pakistani-dramas-that-will-make-ramadan-2025-more-lively-sajal-alys-dil-wali-gali-mein-and-more-1371004 for example. The page has only 2 days and the series will be broadcast in March, so I see no reason to delete now and I am opposed to that outcome. -Mushy Yank. 22:41, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify: Still upcoming show, Sources are mostly pre-release fluff pieces, so hold off until actually released or better developed production section. Ravensfire (talk) 02:30, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify. Low-level sources plus some fishy history. Tend to think any page reliant on sockpuppetry just to get written can be take with a grain of suspicion, as can picking up and carrying on for this later. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:39, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
* Keep: I think the 2 bylined ones are okay for now, it will likely gain a lot more in like two weeks so I'd say keep for now. Sophisticatedevening (talk) 20:01, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
::Which two bylined references would you consider significant coverage as everything is based on announcements?--CNMall41 (talk) 01:37, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify or Delete WP:G5. Poor to unreliable sources. Case of WP:TOOSOON and hoping for significant coverage with multiple critical reviews after the release, for the series to be considered notable. RangersRus (talk) 14:02, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
* Keep. Dil Wali Gali is an upcoming television series that has generated significant anticipation due to its notable cast. It has been featured in many reliable sources, highlighting its potential impact on the entertainment industry. With growing interest and buzz surrounding its release, Dil Wali Gali is poised to make a notable entry into contemporary television. I suggest to Keep the article. Zxa123 (talk) 08:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. ~SG5536B 00:40, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
::See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/StayCalmOnTress#12_February_2025 here]. --CNMall41 (talk) 09:14, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
::I did recommend G5 but it was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dil_Wali_Gali_Mein&diff=1274915383&oldid=1274910160 contested]. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:12, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: The best that may be said for the sources presented or found is that they are well-cited speculation. Nothing directly detailing in RS. BusterD (talk) 18:12, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.