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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dino LaVerghetta

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jayjg (talk) 03:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

=[[Dino LaVerghetta]]=

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Non-notable candidate; has never held office; does not even have the nomination yet. MelanieN (talk) 14:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Keep The entry should not be deleted. The candidate has been endorsed by three major parties, has received significant press coverage, and has been published in a major news source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.153.217 (talk) 08:39, 8 July 2010 (UTC) — 98.14.153.217 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • :There's a comment at the article's Talk page that disagrees with that claim. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
  • :: Yes, I challenged the above claim on the talk page, and I corrected the information in the article. He has been endorsed by a county Republican party, but he still has to earn the actual Republican nomination in a contested primary in September. As for the major news source which was cited, the Wall Street Journal article, it appears to be primarily about the congresswoman's Democratic challenger, rather than about the two Republican contenders. In any case, the usual WP:POLITICIAN understanding is that coverage about the ELECTION does not necessarily make the CANDIDATES notable. But I invite readers to evaluate the information for themselves. --MelanieN (talk) 15:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep MelanieN, with all due respect, that is incorrect. New York politics is strange. For state-wide offices (e.g. governor or senator), canddates are nominated at a state-wide convention. Once thy are nominated, they may still face a primary. For Congressional seats, candidats are endorsed/nominated by conventions in the counties in which the Congressional District resides. Mr. LaVerghetta has been endorsed/nominated by both the Queens and Manhattan parties. For this reason, I have changed the language back. As for the news sources, a quick google search will show that full articles have been written about him in Our Town, the Queens Courier, DNAInfo, etc. The Wall Street Journal article does concentrate on Reshma, but Mr. LaVerghetta is mentioned and quoted. Also, as a candidate, Mr. LaVerghetta has published a sinificant article in the Huffington Post icussing the unconstitutionality of the health care bill's individual mandate. Democrats in Manhattan will always receive more coverage than Republicans, but Mr. LaVerghetta is certainly notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.153.217 (talk) 13:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

::I'll let it stand, since the article does still say that he is facing a contested primary. In any case notability is not achieved by having the nomination, but by "significant coverage in independent reliable sources," and that kind of coverage is what this candidate lacks. The sources cited in the article are: the candidate’s website; the website of his law firm; an article from DNAinfo, which is a “digital news service [http://dnainfo.com/about-us]", reporting the county Republican party endorsement; an editorial in the Queens Courier written by the executive director of the county Republican party; and a passing mention of him by a columnist for the Astoria Times. The only thing actually about him by an outside source is the article in ourtownNY.com, which is a freebie weekly newspaper with a circulation of 1000 [http://ourtownny.com/about/]. The only Reliable Source cited at the page is the Wall Street Journal article about the Democratic challenger, in which any mention of this candidate is behind a paywall. --MelanieN (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

::P.S. I'm striking out the word "keep" from your second comment. You only get one "vote", although you can comment as much as you like. That's why my comments are not prefaced with "Delete" - my "delete" vote is assumed from my being the nominator. --MelanieN (talk) 16:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete as not notable. Even being a nominee (which this individual is not) isn't enough to establish notability. --Muboshgu (talk) 04:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete even if he were a nominee, this wouldn't meet WP:POLITICIAN. Besides that there isn't any significant coverage in reliable sources. The article has seven sources - two of them are his personal website and one of them his company's website. Another two the huffington post and ourtown are blogs. All of those fail WP:RS. The last two simply establish that he is seeking the nomination which is not notable in itself. Valenciano (talk) 15:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep This article should be kept. OurTown (which is a newspaper), the Queens Courier, and DNAinfo are all significant sources in NYC and each has written full articles about Mr. LaVerghetta. Publication in the Huffington Post is also significant for a candidate. Finally, a quote in the Wall Street Journal adds to the candidate's credibility. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.153.217 (talk) 16:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC) — 98.14.153.217 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

:Comment: Once again I am striking out the word "keep" from the front of your comment. You are welcome to comment as much as you like, but you have already "voted" Keep, above, and you only get one "vote." --MelanieN (talk) 20:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Keep it I am a voter in the District with no affiliation with his campaign. He is the most notable Republican candidate we have had here in a very long time. He is in the press a lot and everyone is starting to know who he is. I see no value in deleting the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.201.160.2 (talk) 15:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

:If he's "in the press a lot" then where are these sources? Please have a read of WP:GNG. For notability to be established he must have been covered extensively in reliable sources. Passing mentions or quick quotes in relation to his election campaign don't cut it as he fails the notability criteria in WP:POLITICIAN. Being "the most notable candidate of party x in a long time" is an entirely subjective judgement which can be ignored for the purposes of this discussion and even if it were true, it wouldn't make him notable. The value in deleting him? There are hundreds of thousands of people who run in elections every year and Wikipedia can't and shouldn't be clogged up with every non entity that runs in an election. Valenciano (talk) 19:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Keep' Dino LaVerghetta is the youngest ever candidate to be endorsed by the Republican Parties in Manhattan and Queens. This unsigned comment added by 69.193.146.42. — 69.193.146.42 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.