Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dudley Strasburg
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I can't find any indication that this soldier meets WP:BIO. The source cited - [http://www.rp-online.de/bergischesland/leverkusen/nachrichten/Dudley-Strasburg-der-US-Soldat-vom-Wenzelnberg-ist-tot_aid_848565.html] is an obituary, and is all I can find through Google. With only one piece of significant coverage, he's thus of doubtable notability. Claritas § 20:41, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Weak keep I've found and added links to two articles about him, both from U.S. military papers. Don't know if they're enough to satisfy notability guidelines. JNW (talk) 20:52, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::I'm unsure. There may be independence issues with the first source, because it was written by his former employers, and I'm not sure whether military newspapers meet WP:RS. I'm open to either line of argument now though, and if there's any more significant coverage, I'll withdraw my nomination. Claritas § 20:55, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I share your reservations. There doesn't seem to be much more mention online.... JNW (talk) 20:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Can we nail down which politically motivated massacres he witnessed? That may be the tipping factor here for this afd. TomStar81 (Talk) 20:01, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- :Must refer to this, taken from the military article: "He also describes the experience of killing enemy Soldiers and discovering a Nazi atrocity - a mass grave with the bodies of 71 men executed in the forest." JNW (talk) 20:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- ::Hmm. I was hoping that we maybe able to produce a specific article out the masscre info, but the absence of that information I think that I may swing toward delete on this one. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- :::According to the Rheinische Post obituary he discovered the bodies of those killed in the Wenzelnberg massacre. We don't seem to have an article about that, or even a mention in another article - I suppose that by World War II standards 71 deaths was pretty small fry. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Weak keep He may be notable, however, I would not be surprised if this was deleted. Old Al (Talk) 01:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - none of this reaches to the level of actual notability. He was a U.S. WW2 vet who stayed in Germany after the war and talked to local schoolkids; he got a paragraph or two in the local papers when he died. Even in his adopted hometown he wasn't notable. I might have liked to talk to the guy, but this clearly fails WP:BIO. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:16, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:27, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete. Does it not say somewhere that Wikipedia is not an obituary service? It should. While he was probably quite an honourable and decent fellow with lots of war stories, the article certainly doesn't establish notability. I cannot find anything on his decorations or rank save that he was at one point a private (much like the rest of us soldiers). Perhaps if he was the holder of a medal of honor or something, we could keep this. --Falcon Darkstar Momot (talk) 05:27, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
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