Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elk, Kansas (2nd nomination)

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The first nomination really didn't go anywhere near the problem: there's no evidence this was ever anything but a post office that was put out of business by RFD. It's not even clear that the location given is where the post office was, since it's unlikely to have been in a cemetery. Most of the sources are old maps which are used to justify statements that they cannot support. I also had to prune out a great deal of padding in the form of a historical snapshot of the state. Mangoe (talk) 23:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 00:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kansas-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 00:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Given {{bquote|Diamond Creek, a township of Chase co., Kansas, Pop. 663. It contains Elmdale, Hymer, and Elk.|{{harvnb|Lippincott|1880|p=572}}}} it seems reasonable that this and Hymer, Kansas be merged into Diamond Creek Township, Chase County, Kansas, otherwise we'd still be putting about the same thing in the township article (q.v.). Alas that {{harvnb|Valens|2011}} is self-published and (patently) not expert-written.

  There used to be a GNIS entry (with feature class "cem") for Elk Cemetery, by the way, which is probably how the coördinates got there.

  Uncle G (talk) 03:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

:- Comment: Blackmar's 1912 Cyclopedia of Kansas [https://archive.org/details/kansascyclopedia01blac/page/572/mode/2up] on page 572 describes Elk as "a country post office with one general store in Chase county" having a population of 45. Jbt89 (talk) 06:07, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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• {{cite encyclopaedia|encyclopaedia=Lippincott's Gazetteer of the World|publisher=J. B. Lippincott & Company|year=1880|article=Diamond Creek|ref={{harvid|Lippincott|1880}}}}
• {{cite book|title=Chasing an Illusive Dream|author1-first=Frankie|author1-last=Valens|publisher=AuthorHouse|year=2011|isbn=9781467036368|chapter=The Community of Elk|pages=559–565}}

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• Merge to Diamond Creek Township, Chase County, Kansas The local papers for Elk have many mentions of Elk and it's township.James.folsom (talk) 22:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Merge to Diamond Creek Township, Chase County, Kansas per James.folsom and Uncle G. There was something here but it appears to have been a gathering point for the surrounding township more than a town in its own right.Jbt89 (talk) 19:45, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

• KEEP, don't merge into a township article in Chase county, because the community sat directly on the county line betwen Marion and Chase Counties. There is 2 pages about the former community of Elk on pages 319 to 321 of the "Marion County Kansas : Past and Present" published in 1972. Chase County side was post office, house, ice house; Marion County side was woodman hall, cremery, shop, house, lime kilm, there was a building with a 500 pound grinding stone to grind wheat, and a large windmill next to it to power the grinding stone. I shouldn't have to remind all of you, that all historical documentation isn't on the internet, and just because you can't find information on the internet doesn't automatically mean a community didn't exist. 21:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I'm always impressed by how some people can take the most banal non notable facts and describe them like they are the most awesome thing ever. That aside the local papers do not give any significant coverage of the place. Additionally, nobody said the place didn't exist and existence ≠ standalone Wikipedia article. Stand alone articles need to meet the notability guidelines, and this one doesn't.James.folsom (talk) 23:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
• Merge. Ghost towns can be notable, as I have argued here for years, but this I think is not. Bearian (talk) 18:04, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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