Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evangel Christian School (Alabama)

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The result was Move to Evangel Classical Christian School. SoWhy 09:07, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

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Removed prod because the school does exist in Alabama and there are some sources for it. It is a hybrid home school/brick and mortar school We need to discuss its notability. Here is the correct website for the school. http://www.evangelhomeschool.org/. Rogermx (talk) 03:18, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

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  • Delete lacking coverage in independent, reliable sources to meet the GNG. Home school groups aren't typical community institutions like you would find in your traditional schools, so I'm fine with a hard delete and no redirect. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:01, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Keep Here are some sources I found about the subject:

    1. {{cite news |last=Etheredge |first=Alec |date=2017-03-08 |title=Evangel hires first full-time athletic director |url=http://www.shelbycountyreporter.com/2017/03/08/evangel-hires-first-full-time-athletic-director/ |newspaper=Shelby County Reporter |accessdate=2017-06-18 }}

      The article notes:

      For the first time in its 13-year history, Evangel Christian School has hired a full time athletic director to run its athletic program and serve as its football and baseball coach. The Alabaster-based private school made up of homeschool students has hired Tim Smith, formerly athletic director and headmaster at Cornerstone Christian School in Shelby County.

      ...

      Evangel’s athletic program has been a perennial powerhouse in all sports, despite being run entirely with the leadership of volunteers. Since beginning in 2004, the school has won numerous conference, state and national championships in football, volleyball, boys and girls basketball and baseball. The school currently competes in the Alabama Christian Sports Conference and moved up from eight-man to 11-man football this past fall. The athletic program is made up of student-athletes from both Evangel Christian—the homeschool “school”—as well as Evangel Classical Christian School.

    2. {{cite news |last=Etheredge |first=Alec |date=2016-11-05 |title=Evangel wins 2016 ACSC State Championship |url=http://www.shelbycountyreporter.com/2016/11/05/evangel-wins-2016-acsc-state-championship/ |newspaper=Shelby County Reporter |accessdate=2017-06-18 }}

      The article notes:

      The Evangel Christian School football team got a strong performance from quarterback Micah Murphy who led his team to 459 yards of total offense, 235 through the air and close to another 235 on the ground, to propel his team to the 2016 ACSC state championship.

      Evangel would end up taking down Ezekiel by a final score of 68-30 to take home the title.

    3. {{cite news |date=2016-12-15 |title=Evangel places second at BEST robotics championship |url=http://www.shelbycountyreporter.com/2016/12/15/evangel-places-second-at-best-robotics-championship/ |newspaper=Shelby County Reporter |accessdate=2017-06-18 }}

      The article notes:

      Evangel Christian School in Alabaster recently placed second at the south’s BEST robotics championship at Auburn University.

      Evangel team sponsor Stephen Daniels said this is the fifth year for Evangel students to participate in BEST (Boosting Engineering, Science and Technology).

    Cunard (talk) 09:00, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Question -- It is described as K--12, does that mean it has a secondary department? If so, "all high schools are notable" would seem to apply. This was merely a pragmatic ruling, because pupils wanted to write about their own schools. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:38, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

:: {{ping|Peterkingiron|p=}}, "all high schools are notable" is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&oldid=767023947#RfC_on_secondary_school_notability no longer the consensus] File:Eye close font awesome.svg czar 16:09, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Keep per Cunard, above vote struck. I didn't see the sourcing when I searched, but that's enough to convince me that it meets the standards we traditionally hold high schools to in terms of independent coverage. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:45, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
  • These three sources are all from the same super-local paper ("Alabama's best community newspaper"). Is this really enough information to do justice to the topic? File:Eye close font awesome.svg czar 16:09, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
  • The vast majority of small town high schools only get coverage in their local paper. Rogermx (talk) 17:08, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete because the routine local coverage isn't enough to establish notability. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Delete, with due respect to Cunard, that is all WP:ROUTINE coverage in a local newspaper. I don't think notability is established here. Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:48, 25 June 2017 (UTC).

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  • Delete. It's not actually a school. Based on its website, it's a religious organization that supports home schooling primarily by organizing athletic competitions, and calls it "home schools covering". It offers no classes, though an allied organization (Evangel Classical Christian School) does. The current article is deceptive advertising. DGG ( talk ) 23:26, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

:*From Evangel Christian School's website (http://www.evangelhomeschool.org/services-provided.html):

Classes Offered on campus
  1. High School Classes through ECS Tutorials Program
  2. K-12 Classes through Evangel Classical Christian School
From Evangel Classical Christian School's website (http://www.evangelclassical.org/about/):
History: ECCS was founded in 2000 with 53 students in kindergarten through 5th grade. In 2005, ECCS began adding one grade per year, becoming a full K-12 school in 2010.
Both schools have the same address:
423 Thompson Road

Alabaster, Al 35244

{{user|DGG}}, would you support retaining the article if it was renamed to the actual K-12 school, Evangel Classical Christian School? Information about Evangel Christian School can be moved to a subsection.

Cunard (talk) 04:26, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

::Yes. I think that's a good solution. DGG ( talk ) 18:32, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

  • As nominator, I would support Cunard's plan also.Rogermx (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

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