Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falling sand game

=[[Falling sand game]]=

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Was deleted previously, this article is just a list of games that fail WP:NOTABLE. At the very least, it should be renamed as the name hints of just one game. Anonymax (talk) 01:07, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. ({{find video game sources short|Falling sand game|linksearch=}}) • Gene93k (talk) 23:15, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:15, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep There is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Falling+sand+game&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_review_log=1 no indication] that an article by this title has ever been deleted before. This particular article has been been in existence for over a year with over 100 individual edits from various users, indicating that there is a consensus among those who have looked at the article that it be kept. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:04, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

:There is an indication of it being deleted in the old VfD process, as stated in the talk page. Anonymax (talk) 15:46, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

::Reply The talk page indicates that someone deleted a large amount of content from the article in the past, not that the article ever underwent any deletion review process. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Comment: The previous deletion review process can be read here. Mattg82 (talk) 00:17, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - articles for individual games have been deleted in the past, and I know there are dozens of unnotable variants out there. The question is, are there enough sources to support an article on the genre, even if it's just a "list of"? [http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/15/falling-sand-the-sequel/ Joystiq], [http://www.gamezone.com/blogs/item/the_little_games_that_can_-_falling_sand/ Gamezone], [http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2005/12/welcome_to_the_world_of_sand.php Game Set Watch] and [http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-9984744-2.html CNet] may be able to help. Marasmusine (talk) 15:22, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete as a non-notable video game genre. No VG RS cover this in enough depth to warrant an article. The games themselves have not established this as a prominent genre. 2D Particle physics simulator is barely a genre on its own. As from the perspective of this being about a game itself — there is marginal coverage on various adaptations. Some sources have taken a look at this, but no significant coverage. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

{{admin-note}} Nominator of this AFD has been indefinitely blocked as a sock puppet of a banned user. –MuZemike 14:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

  • Keep, and move to Falling Sand ("game" isn't neccessary, as per precedent, the entry for RTS games is at Real-time strategy and not "Real-time strategy games"). As Maramusine has noted, [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4TSNA_enUS385US385&tbs=nws%3A1%2Car%3A1&q=%22falling+sand%22+game&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= there are sources] for the games, plenty of articles featuring the genre. As for the question of whether there is enough content out there to adequately fill up the entry, I think there is, it just requires a bit of digging and cleanup. --Hongkongresident (talk) 01:02, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

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