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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Felice News

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The sub-articles are a separate matter, but as pointed out, even the lede sources don't work here Black Kite (t) (c) 01:02, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

=[[Felice News]]=

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:{{la|Max Jones}}

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I can't find any references that back up the claims in this article (e.g. of being the world's most popular positive news site, or having reporters in Antarctica). The Vancouver Sun link doesn't work and a search at the paper's web site doesn't bring up an article mentioning it. Google search for {{Google|"Felice News"}} doesn't bring up anything helpful. I'm also adding Max Jones and Lillian Wu to this AfD as related articles. ... discospinster talk 03:14, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I called the Sun, they said that it was a valid article, but it had expired. Check out http://blog.bluehyppo.com/?tag=max-jones It's an AFP report. That is one of the article added to the references this morning. Also see http://www.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-09-24-voa19-68709507.html. I am taking off Max Jones and Lillian Wu from your list, as they have valid references. Will search for more references on this topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.178.106 (talk) 21:32, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

How can we resolve this issue? What do we need to do to get rid of the AfD? The article seems fine now, a number of references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torontonian333 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

:Strong keep - A number of online sources have been added, indicating notability. More references can probably be found. I'll flag Felice News for Article Rescue. Invitrovanitas is no longer a wikipedia editor and has decided to leave. VivereInNY (talk) 11:29, 12 December 2010 (UTC) — VivereInNY (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:04, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete (as to Felice News; I haven't reviewed the Jones and Wu articles yet). There are too many unsourced or poorly sourced claims in this article. The article claims that "Felice News is currently the world's most popular all-positive news outlet, surpassing websites such as HappyNews.com." However, this is sourced to [http://www.quantcast.com/felicenews.com a page where all the traffic data has been hidden by the owner]. The article claims, "Felice News was the first news outlet to release the full features of an Apple iPad." This is sourced to a page on Felice News itself -- not an independent source -- and the [http://www.felicenews.com/ipad.html page cited is blank]. The claim that "A Felice News correspondent was on the scene at Bob Hope Airport on August 5, 2009, following the release of American journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee from their 5-month imprisonment in the communist state of North Korea" is cited to [http://www.felicenews.com/laura-ling-and-euna-lee-released.html this article] which is datelined from Beijing and doesn't mention Bob Hope Airport. The claim that the site has a reporter in Antarctica is sourced to a page that doesn't mention Felice News. Finally, the article claims that the site features a news show called Happy All the Time, but I don't see such a show mentioned on [http://www.felicenews.com/ the site]. The only two videos featured on the front page of the site came from the apparently unrelated site Watchmojo.com. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:33, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Can we not agree that Max Jones and Lillian Wu are two unrelated articles now? Can they not be removed from this AfD? And rather than completely deleting Felice News, why don't we just delete the sections that are not properly referenced? --Torontonian333 (talk) 12:17, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Deleting the sections that are not properly referenced would help the article's verifiability -- but doing so would also remove several of the site's claims to notability. (As I was writing my comment, Discospinster agreed to withdraw the Jones and Wu articles from this AfD, so I am no longer commenting on those articles.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:27, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep Max Jones too. It's early days for this site, but for someone so young to have already gathered the external coverage they have done, I consider that notable. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment: What external coverage is there for Felice News? That's the whole point. ... discospinster talk 17:19, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment. Yet more errors in the article. "Jones taught himself how to build a website with Weebly.com's online website editor, and started www.WNTLive.com (WNT for Weekend News Today) on January 1, 2008. Although, shows did not commence until a month later. ... Max Jones and his elementary school friend, Kendall Gray hosted Felice's first broadcast, introducing themselves and announcing the starting of a book club, which is still active today. The first book introduced in the book club was Trailblazer: An Intimate Biography of Sarah Palin." A picture caption says the first broadcast was on February 1, 2008 (consistent with the text, which says shows began a month after January 1, 2008). But it would have been very difficult for the book club to start reading Trailblazer, because [http://books.google.com/books?id=q_iIMb-jOGkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22trailblazer%22+%22lorenzo+benet%22&source=bl&ots=R3b1jYl-sh&sig=9VPTvmYJBjFs91zscisIoqsuOxM&hl=en&ei=wp4LTbD5FoSUnQePsPXlDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false that book] had not even been written yet, and was not published until 2009. So either (a) Trailblazer was not the first book announced in the book club, (b) the book club did not begin in 2008, or (c) the book club was announced in 2008 but the article has failed to mention that no books were selected for it until almost a year later. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:39, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
  • After watching the video of the first broadcast, I see that it is dated, both by YouTube and in the video itself, as of April 3, 2009. Therefore, it looks like (b) is true in that not only did the book club not begin until 2009, neither did the "Weekend News Today" broadcasts. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:54, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

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