Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Florence Faivre

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Actress lacks notability at this time. No significant coverage, I've yet to find a reliable source, or really anything that doesn't mention her briefly. (And just as an aside that critic's comment is not neutral here.) Trillfendi (talk) 01:25, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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• Comment: Both currently cited Thai sources constitute non-trivial coverage of the subject and her career. Also, sources need not be neutral to be reliable. --Paul_012 (talk) 02:43, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

::As I said, that part was my opinion that it didn’t provide anything for her 2 sentence career section, it was just their attempt to comment on her beauty. Those sources, as I don’t speak Thai, I had no clue so I didn’t want to speak ignorantly on them. Trillfendi (talk) 02:50, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

• Keep Note that de-wiki, fr-wiki, zh-wiki, Thai wiki and more have articles about her. She has had recurring roles in several TV shows. {{Cite web |url=https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/01/12/shield-season-5-transformation-faivre/ |title=Agents Of SHIELD Season 5: the Transformation of Florence Faivre to Sinara

|last=Wickline |first=Dan |work=Bleeding Cool |quote= She was a regular host for two different teen television series and guest hosted many others. As she graduated high school, she was chosen to lead the film The Siam Renaissance, the second largest Thai production ever and she received a best actress nomination at the Bangkok international Film Festival. She then moved to New York where she starred in the films Chokdee and the Elephant King. She then began working in television, guesting on The Following and How To Make It In America before getting cast on The Expanse. |date=January 12, 2018 |accessdate=December 17, 2018}} She has a major role in a well-received recent movie. {{Cite web |url=https://www.broadwayworld.com/toronto/article/AMERICAN-MIRROR-Wins-Best-Cinematography-And-Best-Innovative-Film-At-Pomegranate-Film-Festival-20181121 |title=AMERICAN MIRROR Wins Best Cinematography And Best Innovative Film At Pomegranate Film Festival |work=Broadway World |quote=Balder lays out the dream-like narratives of both the artist and his haunting muses -main parts assigned to Susan Sarandon and Florence Faivre |date=November 21, 2018 |accessdate=December 17, 2018}} HouseOfChange (talk) 03:08, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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• Keep per HouseOfChange. Marvel’s Agents Of SHIELD appears to be her notable work. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 05:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
• Keep, as creator. The references above and in the article are the sort of in-depth coverage that establish notability per WP:GNG. Sandstein 11:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
• Keep. Sources satisfy the GNG. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:30, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
• Keep. Multiple wikis (includin dewiki which is tough notability wise). My BEFORE shows multiple hits by NEWSORGs. Some of the sources above are INDEPTH. Icewhiz (talk) 16:47, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

::Dewiki’s only reliable source gave her all of 7 words. SMH Trillfendi (talk) 17:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

• Delete per nom; has not been in multiple significant roles. The lack of coverage in English-language sources is, as a practical matter, problematic for us. UninvitedCompany 22:28, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

:: {{replyto|UninvitedCompany}} WP:HEY The article now has 5 English-language sources to supplement the more in-depth Thai language coverage. But foreign-language sources are allowed as evidence of notability, even though we prefer English-language for sources of information. HouseOfChange (talk) 19:57, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

::: {{reply|HouseofChance}} Wow, one sentence about her role in Forbes. Groundbreaking. Trillfendi (talk) 20:18, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::: {{replyto|Trillfendi}} WP:NACTOR requires "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." Faivre meets NACTOR for significant roles in two US TV series and a major Thai film. WP:GNG requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Most people !voting her think Faivre also meets GNG, although she has more coverage in Thai than in English. HouseOfChange (talk) 00:45, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

• Keep as available sources clearly show the subject meeting WP:BASIC (independent of WP:NACTOR, which she also passes). Additionally, non-English sources are allowed by policy (WP:N and WP:V), and assigning them lower status simply because they were written in a different language impedes the work of the encyclopedia. Bakazaka (talk) 00:31, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

::Did you not see me say I didn’t disregard the Thai sources since I didn’t want to miscontrue them. My statements were about the English sources given. Trillfendi (talk) 20:12, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

• Keep as available sources clearly show the subject meeting WP:BASIC. Her role in The Expanse is in two of the existing sources and is also notable. Caitlynmaire (talk) 22:32, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

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