Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Franck van der Heijden

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No indication of notability. Claims to have worked with famous musicians, but that is not cited and even if it was, that alone does not establish notability. Fails WP:NMUSIC. Zackmann08 (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:45, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

• Delete as I concur, the information is unconvincing and the sources are both few and then only announcements, there's overall not the needed substance. SwisterTwister talk 20:43, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

• Keep or Merge with existing Articles mentioned below. There seem to be sufficient sources that establish Franck van der Heijden's role in notable compositions (including the opening song of the UEFA Euro 2016 Final [http://www.nu.nl/muziek/4291504/nederlandse-delegatie-tevreden-met-uitvoering-ek-lied-tijdens-finale.html][http://www.nporadio1.nl/homepage/457-toch-nog-nederlanders-naar-de-ek-finale], the opening track of Michael Jackson's posthumous album Xscape [http://www.omroepbrabant.nl/?news/211196922/Love+never+felt+so+good+van+Michael+Jackson+is+productie+van+Franck+van+der+Heijden+uit+Geldrop+.aspx][http://www.bndestem.nl/regio/brabant/love-never-felt-so-good-van-michael-jackson-is-productie-van-franck-van-der-heijden-uit-geldrop-1.4363199]). There are also (less significant) mentions in collaborative works with David Garrett [https://books.google.be/books?id=zXv3AQAAQBAJ&lpg=PT101&dq=%22Franck%20van%20der%20Heijden%22&pg=PT101#v=onepage&q&f=false], and other sources that can assist in adding content to the page (should it be kept) but not to establish or support notability, including:

:* Richard de Hoop (2012), Macht Musik!, GABAL Verlag GmbH, [https://books.google.be/books?id=svK3aXN5xT8C&lpg=PA10&dq=%22Franck%20van%20der%20Heijden%22&pg=PA10#v=onepage&q&f=false];

:* Richard de Hoop (2014), Spitzenteams der Zukunft: So spielen Virtuosen zusammen, GABAL Verlag GmbH, [https://books.google.be/books?id=2VVOBAAAQBAJ&lpg=PA51&dq=%22Franck%20van%20der%20Heijden%22&pg=PA51#v=onepage&q&f=false];

:* Interviews with Franck van der Heijden (only in line with WP:SPS, and definitely not to establish notability) [http://notpfan.eu/nl/content/interview-met-franck-van-der-heijden][http://www.dehoopentertrainment.nl/de/blog/Im-gesprach-mit-franck-van-der-heijden];

:Given what I've found so far (with a quick Google search), I think there is at least credible evidence that WP:COMPOSER has been met (e.g. WP:COMPOSER#1, "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition" (for his contribution to the UEFA 2016 Final song and the Xscape album)). But if the consensus is that notability is not met (I can imagine that some might consider WP:INHERITED standing in the way of notability), I would suggest merging relevant information to the pages UEFA Euro 2016 Final, Xscape (album), and David Garrett (musician), among others.--talk2Chun^{(talk) (contributions)} 14:12, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

• Keep My opinion –article of Franck van der Heijden should not be deleted! There are a lot of information about his works and collaboration with famous people in Internet.
• [https://music.yandex.ua/album/3002835/track/25452070 Explosive Deluxe album of David Garrett on music yandex]
• [http://www.musikansich.de/review.php?id=17360 Céline Dion. Encore un soir album reviews]
• [http://hallohorstaandemaas.nl/veel-luisteren-en-opschrijven Interview of René Froger "Veel luisteren en opschrijven"]

On youtube.com you can see him on the stage with David Garrett always together. For example:

• [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNf_Ekumko From the DVD Live In Concert & In Private (2009)]
• [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if4fsRVWZEw Explosive live, Neue Philharmonie Frankfurt, Köln, Lanxess Arena, 1.12.2016]
• [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foUoEBsfXK8 Rock Anthems Tour of David Garrett & Band with Neue Philharmonie Frankfurt Orchestra]
• [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9DGe0Ite3E&list=PLLccehy8gim7BmWUm9usbfDmGCKfJmEz5 Concert in Berlin Wuhlheide, 08.06.2010]

He is known as a person with real achievements in the music world who contributed a lot to the art even without promotion. First of all that page needs his fans and the people who work behind the scene of show business.

(User_talk:NataliaST) —Preceding undated comment added 11:35, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

• Delete- As Nom stated, the article has a lot of claims but no sources to back them up. The references shown don't meet guidelines as 3 are primary (interviews) sources and 3 are about other topics that mention the subject. None of his compositions seem to meet the requirements of WP:COMPOSER. He did not write the official song of UEFA EURO 2016 or "Love Never Felt So Good" from the Michael Jackson album. He simply did an orchestral arrangement of another composer's work. A Google search turned up nothing to establish notability, mostly interviews, Youtube videos or music listings. If some independent, reliable sources with significant coverage were added to to the article he might pass GNG but as it stands now it fails that criteria as well. CBS527^Talk 03:15, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

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