Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank A. Flower
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn and only one delete !vote from before the addition of sources showing GNG. (non-admin closure) Dom from Paris (talk) 18:25, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
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Municipal Statistician of Superior, Wisconsin does not pass WP:POLOUTCOMES. The books authored by Flower do not credibly indicate how they pass WP:AUTHOR. Having once received a letter from Booker T. Washington does not pass WP:GNG as notability is not inherited (or transferred via post). Masters theses (unlike doctoral dissertations) are not generally RS and being the subject of one probably doesn't contribute to GNG. A WP:BEFORE finds a handful of fleeting references largely of a bibliographical nature sourcing his books. Ultimately, this comes down to the question: "if you are from the 19th century, are you inherently notable?" I don't believe so. Chetsford (talk) 00:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 00:24, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 00:24, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. I agree on the basis of WP:POLOUTCOMES. Centibyte(talk) 00:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep worldcat [https://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85-158205/ here] shows 1467 library holdings of his books with 17, 18, 14 editions of some of them in print for over 100-130 years and editions as late as 2015, passes WP:NAUTHOR as a significant body of work (monument).Atlantic306 (talk) 20:53, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
::Is 1,467 library holdings the numerical threshold NAUTHOR uses to determine if something constitutes a "significant monument"? Anna Brooke, author of Frommer's Easy Guide to Paris 2013 Edition, has 2,017 library holdings of her book according to Worldcat. Is Frommer's Easy Guide to Paris 2013 Edition also a significant monument of world literature? Chetsford (talk) 21:37, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
:::It has not been in print for 130 years like Flower's works Atlantic306 (talk) 22:04, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
::::So once a book is 130 years old it becomes a "significant monument" of world literature? I don't think that's what's meant by "monument" in NAUTHOR. Chetsford (talk) 22:14, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Was notable back then, appearing in [https://books.google.com/books?id=vEMzAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA659 Who's Who], [https://books.google.com/books?id=hV1AAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT455 Harper's Encyclopedia], [https://books.google.com/books?id=vjRMAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA529 DC Biographies], [https://books.google.com/books?id=OkflAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA447 Blue Book], [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9402E2D7133EE733A25754C2A9639C946497D6CF&legacy=true NYTimes Book Review], [https://www.nytimes.com/search/%22Frank%20A.%20Flower%22%20waterways/best/18550101/19120101 Other NYTimes articles]. Will continue adding to article. StrayBolt (talk) 09:25, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep and Withdraw as Nom Based on the sources StrayBolt has dug-up, and the substantial rescue improvements made to the article, clearly passes GNG. Chetsford (talk) 17:42, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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