Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frederick Chilton
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The result was keep__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. (non-admin closure) Schminnte [{{#if:talk to me|talk to me]}} 12:52, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
=[[:Frederick Chilton]]=
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Sources in the article are either primary or do not prove the character's notability, a quick Google search does not give any sources that prove individual notability, and per WP:N, it is not worth a standalone article. If the character is not notable, I suggest a redirect and/or merge to Hannibal Lecter (franchise)#Cast and characters (perhaps not the best redirect target, but I can only think of that). Spinixster (chat!) 02:53, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, Literature, Film, and Television. Spinixster (chat!) 02:53, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, meets WP:GNG
- SIGCOV in The Silence of the Lambs: Critical Essays on a Cannibal, Clarice, and a Nice Chianti [https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Silence_of_the_Lambs/Y6A9DQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0]
- SIGCOV in The Silence of the Lambs: Devil's Advocates by Barry Forshaw [https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Silence_of_the_Lambs/zm9vEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0]
- SIGCOV in The Silence of the Lambs by Yvonne Tasker [https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Silence_of_the_Lambs/nAU0EAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0]
:(See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Crawford (character) for my concerns about this set of 8 nominations in 7 minutes)
:—siroχo 08:07, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
::I cannot access these sources because they don't have previews available for the pages that mention the character, but I will AGF and say that they do talk about the character extensively. If someone else can access and give me a thumbs up, that'd be great. Spinixster (chat!) 08:25, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
:::I don't want to paste too much, but here's a bit from Forshaw and Tasker which I am able to read in full:
:::* Here's one juicy quite from Forshaw: {{bq|"Few works of popular genre cinema have the time (or the interest) to explore the nuances of human behaviour and prefer to delineate such things in bright poster colours (film-makers generally subscribe to HL Mencken’s dictum that nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste – or intelligence – of the public). But this is most certainly not the case with Jonathan Demme and Ted Tally, as evinced by their treatment of the unpleasant attempts at seduction of Clarice by Dr Chilton. Without ever over-stressing the change of attitude in the character when he realises that he will not get very far with his attractive visitor, we witness a sudden froideur in his dealings with her, and his true feelings (which are, it is suggested, of a misogynistic nature) become more apparent. This ties in with the perception of the film as having a progressive feminist agenda (which links it thematically with Demme’s oeuvre), i.e. the suggestion that Starling’s only interest for Chilton is in a libidinous sense; his apparent acknowledgement of her gifts is purely cosmetic – a means to a sexually self-interested end."}}
:::* Tasker:
:::*#{{bq|"Taken to extremes, almost any male figure can be read as paternal. David Sundelson finds failing, dangerous or would-be fathers everywhere in the film from Dr Chilton to Mr Bimmel"}}
:::*#{{bq|"....The response – ‘Oh, he’s a monster, pure psychopath’ – comes from Chilton. Starling stands uncomfortably in front of him – perhaps the twittering of birds that underlies his first words is a sign of her trepidation? To Chilton, Lecter is a specimen: ‘I keep him in here,’ he tells Starling with a flourish. Yet the smarmy Chilton is clearly something of a fool – a self-interested showman rather than the voice of authority that his title or his position might suggest: labels, we may feel, fail to tell us a great deal.}}
:::*#{{bq|"Just as Lecter’s command of culture sets off Gumb’s more lumpen characterisation, his intelligence and vision serve to underscore Chilton’s fatally limited insight. Moreover Lecter’s insistence on courtesy – appealing at a distance, whatever his proclivities – contrasts with Chilton’s clumsy attempts to hit on Starling at their first meeting....
"Lecter’s appeal lies in his elaborate courtesy towards Starling and his contemptuous rejection of the very authority that, as a supposedly learned man, he represents. Ultimately audiences can enthusiastically endorse Lecter’s contempt for Chilton, enjoying the joke of the film’s closing moments.}}
:::—siroχo 08:41, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
:Keep. There is significant coverage, the character has been analysed. Kirill C1 (talk) 08:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Leaning keep per those above. BD2412 T 04:18, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep notable character. Lightburst (talk) 02:13, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
{{clear}}
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