Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frostbite Falls

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show#Characters. While there is a consensus here that there has been some mention in some reliable sources, it's somewhat also agreed that the mentions aren't numerous or in depth enough to qualify as significant coverage. I do see discussion of merging below, so anything worth merging can and should be done from the article history, obviously ensuring it is attributed properly. (non-admin closure) Steven Zhang ^{The clock is ticking....} 00:30, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

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Clearly non-notable. No sources to establish the notatably. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 09:58, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

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Merge to The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. Looked through Google Books and found numerous refs with passing reference that the town was the home of Rocky Squirrel and Bullwinkle Moose, and that it is generally understood to be a caricature of International Falls, Minnesota. I added refs to this effect to the article. The fictional town has apparently become a minor cultural icon, denoting a very cold place, or a place one would not wish to be posted by an employer, or a place of little interest. It gets mentioned without mention of the cartoon franchise or its characters, as a symbol which needs no further explanation to readers familiar with the cartoons:[http://books.google.com/books?id=49wHx2ljI9MC&pg=PA149&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=rZyhTofjN-fi0QGClKniBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CF0Q6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=OyhCLGYGYdUC&pg=PA231&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=8pyhTsHJCsTy0gHkoZW2BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=PhyYqYyVqs4C&pg=PA134&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=8pyhTsHJCsTy0gHkoZW2BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=U7GAqXFlfZEC&pg=PT96&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=8pyhTsHJCsTy0gHkoZW2BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=zOCdf05Jk_wC&pg=PA225&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=8pyhTsHJCsTy0gHkoZW2BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=MWUEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA3&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=8pyhTsHJCsTy0gHkoZW2BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=ZRETyMbi-0EC&pg=PA54&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=8pyhTsHJCsTy0gHkoZW2BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFoQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=EY2FHx2fCj8C&pg=PA382&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=X52hTv-uCcr20gGcy9jjBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDEQ6AEwATgU#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=rJObivwxPNoC&pg=PA60&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=X52hTv-uCcr20gGcy9jjBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFAQ6AEwBzgU#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=XF02MvOcGcYC&pg=PA150&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=X52hTv-uCcr20gGcy9jjBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFoQ6AEwCTgU#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=gJz-bPqwETIC&pg=PA75&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=t52hTqiWJIX10gGRs_jkBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwADge#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=xo77Lp9wHHAC&pg=PA191&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=t52hTqiWJIX10gGRs_jkBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDMQ6AEwATge#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false], [http://books.google.com/books?id=mVDl-OuuzrcC&pg=PA12&dq=%22frostbite+falls%22+-bullwinkle+-rocky&hl=en&ei=t52hTqiWJIX10gGRs_jkBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBzge#v=onepage&q=%22frostbite%20falls%22%20-bullwinkle%20-rocky&f=false] etc. I'm just not sure this is sufficient to satisfy WP:N, or that the info could not be merged into the main article. Edison (talk) 16:21, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Redirect to The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. Ees plot against moose and squirrel. Anyhoo, if The New York Times can publish an article called [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/01/sports/othersports/01ultra.html "Welcome to Frostbite Falls"] without feeling it necessary to explain the reference, that's saying something. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:13, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Clarification. It's a well-known location, but there's not a lot to say about it other than jokes. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:55, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Keep although my heart won't be broken if consensus calls for a merge or a redirect. A reference already in the article, Television character and story facts by Vincent Terrace, gives a pretty detailed description of Frostbite Falls: "Frostbite Falls, Minnesota, population 29, is the setting for an insane battle of good against evil as seen through the animated adventures of Rocket J. ("Rocky") the Flying Squirrel and his dimwitted friend, Bullwinkle the Moose — the do-gooders who battle the evils of Boris Badenov and his assistant, Natasha Fataly. Frostbite Falls is serviced by the Union Pathetic Railroad, and when the town's only movie theater, the Bijou, opened, the first picture they showed was A Trolley Named Talullah. Rocky and Bullwinkle attended Frostbite Falls High School and then Frostbite U. (where Bullwinkle was a "BMOC" — Big Moose on Campus; he was also hoodwinked into playing football — jersey number 0 — for Wossamatta U.). Red and purple were the Frostbite U. school colors." I think that those details, plus a very large number of other mentions in a wide variety of sources over a period of five decades, are sufficient to establish the notability of this fictional village. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:52, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Redirect to The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show: I do not believe that the fictional town meets the general notability guideline, but, with the sources shown, I believe that there is a strong-enough association to justify a redirect. Jfgslo (talk) 03:25, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Redirect to The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 14:15, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.