Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fund for UFO Research (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 10:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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A 2009 N/C but nothing then or now that meets WP:ORG level of coverage. Has been defunct for a decade, so no indication this will change. Star Mississippi 15:50, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment: I did find this source on Wikipedia Library, but cannot tell what the actual publication is, so can't comment on quality of source: McCarthy, P. “UFOs in Washington: The Fund for UFO Research Is Working for the Cause on Capitol Hill.” Omni 14, no. 8 (May 1992): 79. https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=f6h&AN=9205184233&site=eds-live&scope=site. CT55555 (talk) 16:33, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

::I found something similar to that, likely an excerpt, but I unfortunately couldn't find evidence that the hearings ever took place. I'm not 100% sold on my government database research so might have missed it. Star Mississippi 17:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

:::I suspect [https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/2/15729620/omni-magazine-archive-amazon-jerrick-media this] explains what the OMNI thing is about. - Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 07:26, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

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  • Weak Keep This is an organization so WP:NCORP guidelines apply. I can confirm that the link found by CT55555 is the entire article and is from the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?59882 May 1992 issue of OMNI magazine] and in my opinion although it lacks in-depth details, it could be argued either way on whether it meets NCORP criteria. I've searched also for "FUFOR". While the organization was well-known in certain circles, it is still a niche area and it is difficult to find good sources. The org published a lot themselves and are referenced in other books and magazines (and even in [https://media.defense.gov/2010/Dec/01/2001329893/-1/-1/0/roswell-2.pdf Air Force Research report regarding the Roswell Incident]) but usually only as a mention-in-passing and no in-depth information. There is another small paragraph in [https://books.google.ie/books?id=4OA3DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT73 UFO FAQ by David J Hogan]. There another paragraph at the end of [https://books.google.ie/books?id=Hm44DQAAQBAJ&pg=PT1000 this book?] and similarly [https://books.google.ie/books?id=RK16AgAAQBAJ&pg=PT24 in this one]. In my opinion and having regard to the topic and the age of the organization, I think it squeaks past NCORP although I would be happier with one more really good reference. HighKing++ 16:43, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

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  • Keep per High King and per more sources establishing WP:NCORP. I found some coverage in national papers and entries in two specialist encyclopedias by reputable publishers. However, there are some inaccuracies in the article. For example, Los Angeles Times and Washington Post and the encyclopedias all say the organization was based in Mount Rainier, Maryland not Alexandria, Virginia. Also, a 1996 Chicago Tribune article says Don Berliner was the Director of FUFOR (he was covered as he was in an episode of The X-Files broadcast in the 1996-1997 season) and our wiki article says he wasn't director until 1998 (so clearly our dates for directors are wrong; although the 2012 encyclopedia has the same dates so maybe the Chicago Tribune was mistaken on his role). See source publication info below.4meter4 (talk) 02:21, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

:*{{cite book|url=https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Mammoth_Encyclopedia_of_Extraterrest/Md_ABAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Fund+for+UFO+1979&pg=PT256&printsec=frontcover|publisher=Little, Brown and Company|author= Ronald Story|title=The Mammoth Encyclopedia of Extraterrestrial Encounters|chapter=Fund for UFO Research (FUROR)|isbn=9781780337036|year=2012}}

:*{{cite book|title=Encyclopedia of Strange and Unexplained Physical Phenomena|author=Jerome Clark|year=1993|page=119|chapter=Fund for UFO Research (FUFOR)|publisher=Gale|isbn=9780810388437}}

:*{{cite news|title=Channel surfing|author=Allan Johnson|work=Chicago Tribune|date=25 December 1996|page= B15}}

:*{{cite news|title=Tempest In a Saucer: The Smithsonian's Symposium on UFOs The UFO Identity Crisis|author=Stuart Rohrer|work=The Washington Post|date=8 September 1980|page= B1, B4}}

:*{{cite news|title=UFO Believers Point to Reports by Air Force|author=Brienza, Julie|work=Los Angeles Times|date=16 Dec 1983|page=c12}}

:*{{cite news|title=Suit Seeks to Lift Secrecy Veil From Agency's UFO Documents|author= Ward Sinclair|work=The Washington Post|date=3 November 1981|page= A5}}

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