Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gainsborough Preceptory
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There is no such thing as "Gainsborough Preceptory". Someone has obviously become confused. All Saints Church in Gainsborough was built by the Knights Templarhttp://www.pastscape.org.uk/hob.aspx?hob_id=325087, and controlled by Willoughton Preceptoryhttp://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=38047, but it was never a preceptory itself. Rushton2010 (talk) 11:03, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
:Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
::Support - I added a 'dubious' tag when it was described as a priory. The more I read the more I come to this point of view.−−−Robert EA Harvey (talk) 16:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Wondered if confused with Guilsborough Preceptory. List of monastic houses in Lincolnshire was full of this sort of thing. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 16:35, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
::::Someone's obviously got confused somewhere. All Saints Church in Gainsborough was built by the Templars, but it was a parish church, not a preceptory. Someone not familiar with monastic terms and monastic history could have easily been confused, or perhaps they presumed that because they built a church, they used it as a monastery?
::::As you say it could have also been confusion between names Gainsborough and Guilsborough. I would argue it is more likely to be my explanation, as Guilsborough was a "Camera" not a "Preceptory", and was used by the Knights Hospitallier, not the Knights Templar; Guilsborough Camera was reliant on Dingley Preceptory in Northamptonshire. For those not familiar with terms, a camera was "A residence used during short visits by an official and attendants of the Knights Hospitallers for administrative purposes on their estates", with a preceptory being a fully fledged monastery/priory.
::::The motives behind the confusion probably isn't relevant to AFD. However the confusion occurred, there was no Preceptory at Gainsborough. --Rushton2010 (talk) 18:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Delete -- I do not know the facts, but the explanation given is credible. Peterkingiron (talk)
:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 12:26, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - for the purposes of notability, it doesn't really matter if it existed or not (some non-existent things being very notable). What matters is whether it has been covered in reliable sources or meets one of our other inclusion guidelines. Of course, actually existing helps when it comes to generating that coverage. In this case, I couldn't find any coverage and without it, this would appear to be original research without sufficient notability. Stalwart111 13:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
::::Yes it is supposed to be based on "significant coverage"; but there's no coverage at all, because the thing doesn't and never has existed. As listed above, it is a page created after confusion. --Rushton2010 (talk) 23:37, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, then not much will save this. Thanks for the extra explanation. Stalwart111 23:41, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
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