Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gallery of curves

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Fails WP:NOTREPOSITORY, could be merged into List of curves or copied to Commons. —fetch·comms 01:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

• Comment If you think it could be merged, then that is an argument for keeping the material, but merely putting it somewhere else (and redirecting), so you shouldn't nom it for AfD. Ty 02:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:I think it could be merged, but I'm just saying that's an option for any inclusionists who might happen across this. It's not mergeable as is--galleries are discouraged per the MOS--but if this is deleted (which is the option I prefer), a selection of appropriate images can be added to the list article as seen fit. In any case, there is no reason why AfD cannot be a discussion area like TfD, RfD, CfD, etc. —fetch·comms 20:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

::Inclusionists, as in including valid and useful encyclopedic information in an encyclopedia? Wikipedia:Image use policy allows galleries. Per WP:IG: "the use of galleries may be appropriate in Wikipedia". This would seem in its entirety to be valid in e.g. Curves, which shows scant examples at present. You say, "but if this is deleted (which is the option I prefer), a selection of appropriate images can be added to the list article" That is contradictory. Deletion is for material which should not be on wikipedia. If you are adding material from one article to another, as you suggest, it is a merge and should have a redirect to maintain GFDL integrity. I see no reason to remove all these diagrams of curves from wikipedia. That's not just deletionism, it's destructionism. Ty 23:16, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:::It is a misuse of AfD to use it as "a discussion area". That should be done on the article talk page, WikiProjects etc. Ty 23:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:No objection to deletion, as it is redundant with :Category:Images of curves. Btyner (talk) 00:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC) (original creator I might add)

::See Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. The systems work in different ways and are both/and, not either/or. See also the problems with relying on categories: Wikipedia:Categories vs lists. Ty 01:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

::... and :Category:Images of curves is less direct because it provides links to the image pages, whereas the gallery provides an immediate link to the article about each crve. Gandalf61 (talk) 09:39, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

• Comment. I think the current List of curves would benefit enormously from a layout that included images, and that is clearly something to consider. However, Gallery of curves does seem strange as a standalone list, and clearly something should be done with it. Sławomir Biały (talk) 19:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

::*That would seem to be a sensible merge, so that anyone looking at List of curves could get some idea of what the curves were like without having to click each article link individually. Ty 00:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

• Keep WP:NOTREPOSITORY does not apply because this is not a gallery of random pictures - we have an article about each of these curves. No other good reason has been given for deletion. :Category:Images of curves is not equivalent because it provides links to the image pages, not to the articles. Merger into list of curves is an option, but is not a simple copy-and-paste exercise, so would take some time to get it right. But that idea requires a separate discussion - AfD is not the right place to propose a merger. Gandalf61 (talk) 09:39, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
• Comment. I think I would vote to hold off on deletion as well, per Gandalf. I'm going to post a proposal over at WT:WPM to see if there is any interest in revising List of curves. Sławomir Biały (talk) 11:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
• Keep per Gandalf61. -- Radagast3 (talk) 14:05, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
• Keep at least for the time being, pending the result of the WT:WPM or any other proposal. These things should be raised with relevant editors and WikiProjects in the first instance, rather than immediate recourse to AfD. Ty 17:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

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