Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary Maloney
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Mr. Maloney has done a lot to make other people notable, but I am not sure he meets the criteria for his own article. There are definitely "a lot" of sources in the article, but if you would please direct your attention to the content of those sources. Of the ones that are secondary, most are not about him, but about the people he represented [http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/28/nyregion/political-memo-whitman-s-tactics-could-still-decide-race-in-new-jersey.html| 1] [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22101888/| 2] [http://www.scpronet.com/point/9512/lips.html| 3]. The New York Observer article [http://www.observer.com/2000/mayor-hires-maloney-political-operative-sleuth-hillary| 4] does focus largely on Maloney. He seems to be notable in NYC political circles, so I am not sure how much credibility to attribute to the source, because the context seems to be localized. Also, I couldn't get the Jewish Observer source to load, so admittedly, that may go toward notability. (I did and it doesn't. [http://www.jewishworldreview.com/weekly/standard1.asp| 5]) A close call perhaps, but I think a discussion needs to be had. --Quinn ➳WINDY 04:04, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Keep I've added more references to the article, some of which mention Maloney more directly. Furthermore, the general picture that I got while searching for references was that he was a significant political player. I would also argue that "doing a lot to make other people notable" is exactly what a notable political consultant should be doing. Sophus Bie (talk) 08:08, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Comment notability is not inherited but I support the addition of more articles that talk about Maloney directly. --Quinn ➳WINDY 17:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
::[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=JzdSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TjYNAAAAIBAJ&pg=6398,318143&dq=gary-maloney&hl=en| This] added reference is about political tactics in a GOP gubernatorial race, and focused on talks about criticisms of Maloney's tactics on behalf on Kent Hance's campaign. It may or may not further establish notability, but, if so, the criticisms expressed in the Victoria Advocate article are not likewise expressed in the Wikipedia article. [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=y6o9AAAAIBAJ&sjid=BjcMAAAAIBAJ&pg=4266,130520&dq=gary-maloney&hl=en| This new reference] is pretty much a rehash of exactly the same info. And [http://articles.latimes.com/1990-05-27/local/me-302_1_gallegly-campaign/4| here again] is a mention of preceived controversial tactics employed by Maloney in the same case, and is used largely as context in an article about so called "dirty tactics" by political compaigns. So, like I said before, if these new references do establish notability (and I don't think they do) then the article is lacking a "Controversies" section, because, if he is notable, it seems to be, to some extent, for criticisms of his tactics. --Quinn ➳WINDY 17:49, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:45, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Logan Talk Contributions 00:17, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Keep - A recognized expert in the field of political consulting (a mover and shaker at the national level) and the subject of independent third-party coverage dropping his name in the headline — see, for example: [http://www.observer.com/2000/mayor-hires-maloney-political-operative-sleuth-hillary "Mayor Hires Maloney, Political Operative, to Sleuth Hillary."] Carrite (talk) 06:09, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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- Keep Sorry to be so late to the party, but I think this one's a definite keeper. There are oppo ppl listed along with Maloney whose work is not even as notable, yet they are not contested. Let's not confuse "notability" with "notoriety." Given what oppo ppl do for a living, they often work very hard at staying off the radar, so you're not going to find as much documentation of them personally as you would for some of the campaigns they serve. ~