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This is essentially WP:OR based on an obscure research article with lots of WP:COI added in. It is tied to the article Ahmed Sarirete that was created [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ahmed_Sine by the same user] presumably as WP:PROMO and which is also currently under consideration for deletion. Essentially the concept seems to be introduced in this obscure academic article https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/ccr/vol66/iss66/9/ which has been cited a total of 7 times in the last 13 years and does not have seemed to have gained any traction. While not totally made up, most of it is WP:OR or WP:FRINGE with some references to existing topics but the term does not seem to be widely accepted in academia as a search in JSTOR and Google Scholar shows. --hroest 17:43, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. hroest 17:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:Keep In marking this article as patrolled, I left a talk page message noting that "geocivilization is frequently used in political science research to discuss how geography shapes politics and vice versa, satisfying WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV for retention." Here are some examples of its use:

:*{{Cite journal |last=Sebastian-Gabriel Popescu |date=2019-04-25 |title=And Yet the Black Sea Can Be an Essential Geostrategic Pivot in the Solution of Euro-Asiatic Endogenous Conflictuality |journal=Research Association for Interdisciplinary Studies Conference Proceedings |url=https://zenodo.org/record/2651185 |doi=10.5281/ZENODO.2651185}}

:*{{Cite journal |last=Ciderova |first=Denisa |last2=Repasova |first2=Vladimira |date=September 2019 |title=Geo-Heterogeneity in the Context of the EU |url=https://test.eujournal.org/index.php/esj/article/view/1754/1743 |journal=European Scientific Journal |volume=9}}

:*{{Cite journal |last=Mohanty |first=Manoranjan |date=2018 |title=Sectional President’s Address: Alternative Historiography: Tan Chung’s Geo-Civilisational Paradigm |url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/26906303 |journal=Proceedings of the Indian History Congress |volume=79 |pages=644–653 |issn=2249-1937}}

:*{{Cite web |date=19 October 2022 |title=Zan Tao: Historical Evolution of Türkiye and Eurasian Geopolitics |url=https://en.iiss.pku.edu.cn/info/1064/1781.htm |access-date=23 May 2025 |website=Institute of International and Strategic Studies |publisher=Peking University}}

:*{{Cite book |last=Shih |first=Chih-yu |chapter=Global Asian: China as Position between Host and Home |date=2013 |title=Sinicizing International Relations |pages=153–173 |url=http://link.springer.com/10.1057/9781137289452_10 |place=New York |publisher=Palgrave Macmillan US |language=en |doi=10.1057/9781137289452_10 |isbn=978-1-349-45016-9}}

:While the term is definitely niche, I think it is sufficiently notable given its use across this many contexts and regions. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 03:14, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

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• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Mangoe (talk) 14:44, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
• leaning delete I don't have the time or the background to sort through all this but I note that (a) the jargon level is extremely high in this to the point of tempting a diagnosis of deliberate obfuscation, (b) few of the works noted above appear to use it as a term, and (c) it really ought to be possible to say "no, environmental factors aren't entirely determining" without having to make a school of it or for that matter to run on so. Mangoe (talk) 14:55, 7 June 2025 (UTC)